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Post: #37647
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This message was edited by Passion4Soccer on May 24th, 2010 17:28 GMT
I was under the impression that ODP was sooo big...even at the U-13s...but it didn't seem to be the case.
So I went this weekend to the girls '98 ODP tryouts...to take notes and see what the environment was like...to better prepare my daughter for next year's '99 tryouts.
I was surprised and disheartened to find that there were approximately 24 girls TOTAL!
I was expecting closer to 100+.
85+ girls showed up to PDP tryouts...although it was a combination of 98s and 99s. But the numbers and talent were obviously better at PDP.
IMO: The ODP tryout talent was lacking and they were actually doing the basics. (Pass/Receive - 1st touch) for about an hour out of two hours given. (For an hour?)
Unfortuantely, this one hour variety of drills, utilizing the same concept...seemed to be warranted...because there were only a handful of girls that seemed to be able to handle this very basic skill.
Another thing I noticed...
One man had the clipboard while two younger females seemed to be assisting him.
That's it for staff?
I digress...
A new procedure has been set...no longer will their be Regional play dates.
Now...
There are two "open" tryout sessions (Totaling: 4 days - 2 hours/day)
After the last "open" tryout in July...
Theoretically...whoever performed well enough...according to one man's opinion...will receive an invite.
One person within an 8 hour timeframe...makes the decision...who is worthy of "State/Regional ODP Tryouts??"
Noone to keep that person's bias in check??
I'm curious to know what his qualifications are.
Is there less coaching staff because, at the youngers, it doesn't matter as much?
At the younger age groups...is it more about the girls getting early exposure?
My other questions are...
1. Was this a flukey wave of players and maybe more of the talent will show up to the last open tryout in July?
2. Is this a result of NorCal's "play for free" at the younger age groups being more attractive?
3. Is ODP at the younger age groups (U13/U14) worth the time and money spent? (Cost vs. Early exposure?)
Thanks in advance...
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Post: #37652
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Can't say...but I too wonder. This year seems to be different...just an id program for state...ok, then why go...why not have tryouts for the state. What was it like in previous years?? I don't know but I do know that this year a different tone is set...
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Post: #37653
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I think it could depend what district your in as some district are bigger on ODP then others. I will say it's not as popular as 5 years ago but i'm sure in certain districts they still got 50 or 60 kids out. Not sure what district you are with but over here in district 2 it was a solid showing for that age. I think 50 plus came out if i'm not mistaken. Coaching wise they basically appoint a head coach then that coach brings other coaches to help evaluate.
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Post: #37654
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In the past, unless you were on the state team from the year before, it was mandatory to attend the open tryouts held in each district. So, going to those sessions you could see the universe of candidates. Now, it appears that the open try-outs were/are optional and you could be selected to the district pool based on performance in games. It'll be interesting to see if the new process results in a better state try-out pool. At a minimum, it ought to result in more free time for all involved.
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Post: #37671
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I've heard that U14-U16 are the most important age groups in terms of being identified and moving through the levels of ODP. I imagine if your daughter really strives to become part of the national team pool... it's worth the hassle to get your foot in the door. For what it's worth (probably not much), there is always going to be an "expert" telling you that your "wasting your time with this", etc. Every situation is unique... why not give it a shot?
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Post: #37672
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Some personal observations, we participated in ODP for a couple of years and the DA program was just beginning. First year very competitive. The next year a couple of top talent players were missing, rumor was they joined an academy taem. The next year more talent gone, and my child said "I have to join and academy" (not an option at the time) his final trial for ODP he was injured (outside of soccer) and could not participate. I called one of his "Mentors" in the program and asked about options for next tryouts and the response was surprising. He advised participating in one of the new academy programs as the talent pool had been substantially diluted.
The re-org of CYSAN will hopefully allow more players an opportunity to participate in this ODP program. Currently though the DA and ECNL programs seem to allow for more exposure to national and college coaches. I will also add that if your child is a standout, coaches from other districts, and regions will hear about him or her - they will already be on the radar. Just my observations.
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Post: #37673
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The fact is you only get seen starting at u16 for the most part so ODP is more important at 13's and 14's if you want more exposure or a nice resume builder. Assuming money is not an issue I would then recommend the DA or ECNL for exposure but if you don't have all that money then it becomes difficult. I think experiencing ODP at the younger ages is good. You meet new kids, play with good players for the most part, new coaching, build friendships and bonds,etc. I don't believe in paying over the top money at u12 or u13 as I think you still can be on quality team with good coaching without breaking the bank but at u15 or 16 if you do DA or ECNL you will break the bank and some more!
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Post: #38917
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This message was edited by Passion4Soccer on June 22nd, 2010 16:54 GMT
An update...
As I said before I was disappointed to see the lack of talent, at the '98 ODP district tryout.
Well...
I just came to find out the ODP district evaluator...selected 20 out of about 24 girls that tried out, to move onto State tryouts.
All I can say is:
"Wow...so much for being [selective]."
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Post: #38921
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Maybe they (ODP) feel that the ones selected were more "trainable"?
There might be more already established players that were lacking at try outs that have ingrained from their coaches a way of doing things that don't lend themselves to learning new ways to do what they already know.
Also the more established (elite) players already will get recognition at a higher level just being on their successfull club team at well known tournaments, they don't feel the "need" for ODP recognition so much.
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Post: #38922
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Quoted from: stepmomsoccer, June 22nd, 2010 17:31 GMTMaybe they (ODP) feel that the ones selected were more "trainable"?
There might be more already established players that were lacking at try outs that have ingrained from their coaches a way of doing things that don't lend themselves to learning new ways to do what they already know.
Possibly...I hadn't thought about that.
Thanks
Quote MessageAlso the more established (elite) players already will get recognition at a higher level just being on their successfull club team at well known tournaments, they don't feel the "need" for ODP recognition so much.
So is it your opinion that ODP is NOT the set path for girls to be recognized?
Is there a "set path?"
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