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11RoCks - January 14th, 2012 20:23 GMT


99G tied at half with Az 1-1
11RoCks - January 18th, 2012 01:51 GMT


Congrats to 99G for going undefeated in the AZ National ODP Championships!  
Hooked002 - January 19th, 2012 04:52 GMT


Congrats to the 2012 Region IV ODP Champions:

95G - CS
96G - CS
97G - CS
98G - WA
99G - AZ
Reccos vul - January 24th, 2012 20:30 GMT


Any news on when they will post the all-tourney teams for girls?
Hooked002 - January 26th, 2012 20:23 GMT


Last year, the boys team was posted within a day of the finals, while the girls team took a few weeks.  Don't hold your breath hoping to see many CN players on the first team.  IMO, there's a bias toward CS in regional ODP.  Usually doesn't bother me because CS usually wins the age-group, but did bother me last year when they lost in the 96G semis and still got the most selections to that age-group's All-Star team.  This year, it'll be interesting to see how they handle the 99G age group where CS didn't compete, having chosen to play the CS 99G team in the 98G age group (where they got to the semis).
Reccos vul - January 26th, 2012 21:01 GMT


Thank you! I was curious. I do recgonize the bias for CS, year after year, it still seems the same. Please don't get me wrong, they have talented atheletes, but some other talents have gone unrecgonized and that is unfortunate.  As for this year, in the 98G group, it looked as they had placed the stronger teams on one side of the bracket, so even though the CS 99G team went to the semis, they were not playing the strogest teams of the 98G group during pool play. I would imagine those girls would still go under the 99 umbrella when they do select the all-tourney team.
Blues99 - January 27th, 2012 06:41 GMT


US Youth Soccer is holding a national development camp for the 95s, 96s, and 97s and all together over 190 girls were invited to this camp, and only 4 are from Cal North.  If that is not bias than I'm not sure what it is.  I'm happy to say that three of these girls are from Blues/Placer's u15 team. 
Toneib - January 27th, 2012 15:35 GMT




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US Youth Soccer is holding a national development camp for the 95s, 96s, and 97s and all together over 190 girls were invited to this camp, and only 4 are from Cal North.  If that is not bias than I'm not sure what it is.  I'm happy to say that three of these girls are from Blues/Placer's u15 team. 
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Here is the link to the http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/news/story.asp?story_id=6402 (invitees.) Low Cal North numbers are possibly due to ECNL and US Club PDP involvement.
Soccer Friend - January 27th, 2012 15:45 GMT


No bias to CS they are better.  Same old norcal results.  third tier program at best
Blues99 - January 27th, 2012 19:20 GMT




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------ QUOTE from  Blues99, January 27th, 2012 06:41  GMT ------
US Youth Soccer is holding a national development camp for the 95s, 96s, and 97s and all together over 190 girls were invited to this camp, and only 4 are from Cal North.  If that is not bias than I'm not sure what it is.  I'm happy to say that three of these girls are from Blues/Placer's u15 team. 
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Here is the link to the http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/news/story.asp?story_id=6402 (invitees.) Low Cal North numbers are possibly due to ECNL and US Club PDP involvement. 
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No doubt that ECNL has had a significant impact on the numbers, but I do know that on the 97s team there is a least one player from each Mustang, Rage, and DeAnza's ECNL teams. 

Cal South is very strong.  Not only do they have great players, but my understanding is that their rosters from year to year don't change much so they are used to playing with each other.  They also practice together throughout the year and it shows at tournaments.   
Hooked002 - January 27th, 2012 20:24 GMT




------ QUOTE from  Soccer Friend, January 27th, 2012 15:45  GMT ------
No bias to CS they are better.  Same old norcal results.  third tier program at best
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You have your opinion.  I have mine. 
Reccos vul - January 27th, 2012 20:28 GMT


I have to agree with Hooked. There are several talented kids on many CN teams that get over looked because they may not be on the "top" team, but are talented. Even this past summer and fall, some CN girls were invited to the National camp(s), so I'm surprised none of their names showed up on this current invitation. 
Blues99 - January 27th, 2012 21:08 GMT


For the 97s the past couple years CS has sent 18 girls to the Idaho camp and 17 have made the Regional Pool.  Once again, I think they have a very talented group of girls but 17 out of 18 seems an exaggeration.  I guess it helps that the 97 Regional coach is from CS as well as the main Regional coach. 

I think our 97s are better this year than last, but still not on the same zip code as CS, but our 96s are a different story.  The 96s team is great team and fun to watch.   
soccertalker - January 27th, 2012 21:24 GMT


It's almost the same exact kids on the 97 team from last year, so I don't know why it's so much better. Or is it because your daughter didn't go to Arizona last year? That must be why they're so much better. Did they do better against Washington? Last year, they beat Utah, how did they do this year? When it came to playing the true competition this year, CN didn't fare to well, being outscored 7-2.
Blues99 - January 27th, 2012 23:51 GMT


First of all its very pathetic for you to bring up my daughter or any other kid into the conversation.  If your kid didn't make the team this year don't blame mine for it. 

Second) I said "I think the 97s are better this year than last".  I never said that they were "so much better".  That's my opinion, and if you don't agree it doesn't hurt my feelings, and it should hurt yours either.  Also, by team I meant the whole state pool, all 30 players and I believe  there are between 13-14 new players this year.  I will say that almost 50% is not "almost the same exact kids from last year" as you put it.  I didn't keep track of the girls that traveled to Phoenix for the past two years, but it's hard for me to believe that it was almost the same exact kids with all the changes on the roster. 

Third) if you are comparing this year's team vs last year's based on their scores during a 4 day tournament than I have nothing to say because I didn't watch a single game this year or last.  I was basing my own opinion on what I have seen at tryouts and trainings compared to what I saw last year.  I also think the coaches this year are better than last.  I know the team that traveled to Phoenix did well even though a few key players couldn't go because of school, injuries or other reasons, including the striker from MVLA, who is probably the 97s best striker, and two very good players from Mustang (center mid and center back).   
soccertalker - January 28th, 2012 02:02 GMT


Guess I hit a nerve if asking a simple question makes me pathetic. Sorry, my daughter did not try out for ODP.

I was not commenting on the pool, just the girls rostered for Arizona, and, yes, "almost" the same from last year. The striker from MVLA will make a big difference if she goes to Idaho, as she is the best striker for the 97 age group in CN, by far.
PlayerAdvocate - January 29th, 2012 03:34 GMT


"almost" the same team from last year   Unless you call 50% "almost" the same team, it was not the same team.  Did you attend either tournament?  If you were not at the games, you have no idea how the games went and what the scores meant.  Last year's team was a great group of girls, but were missing a few key positions.  The coaches were good, but IMO this coach was more effective.  This year's team, another great group of girls, key positions filled better, a much better formation, last year they ran a 3, 4, 3....this year a 4, 3, 3 and the girls played a lot more cohesive. 
Utah scored on a pk, we missed many opportunities.  We looked strong in out next two games, the New Mexico coach said that we had a strong team.  The Washington game, they were definitely a strong team, but two of their goals came off of very unfortunate mistakes.  That game should have been a 1-1 tie.
So-cal, well they are so-cal, stacked!  They have tryouts twice a year and train more.  They keep a core group of girls from year to year.  However, we were the only team to put a goal in on them!  The girls played well and never stopped fighting in that game.
They have a lot to be proud of!
Blues99 - January 29th, 2012 20:53 GMT




------ QUOTE from  soccertalker, January 28th, 2012 02:02  GMT ------
Guess I hit a nerve if asking a simple question makes me pathetic. Sorry, my daughter did not try out for ODP.

I was not commenting on the pool, just the girls rostered for Arizona, and, yes, "almost" the same from last year. The striker from MVLA will make a big difference if she goes to Idaho, as she is the best striker for the 97 age group in CN, by far.
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I'm almost certain that I saw your daughter at the first tryout for returning players. I guess I'm mistaken just as you are regarding the rosters been the same as last year. I also counted 9 of the 18 as new players. I'm not going to make this into an argument. Best of luck to your daughter at PDP.
soccerwest - December 03rd, 2012 19:46 GMT


Final tryout for ODP this weekend.  Anyone know why they invited so my girls back for a 1.5 hour  tryout? Hard to believe they have not made their minds up already.
soccerwest - December 20th, 2012 19:41 GMT


I know that State ODP wil play other states in Vegas in January.  Also noticed PDP has a state team and  they will play in Vegas the following weekend.  I noticed some girls are on both lists..........  Who is  PDP playing?

PDP seems to be doing a decent job regionally but when it come to state who are they playing?  Other PDP state teams? 

SO now we have PDP ECNL, Nor cal PDP and ODP.  Geez do we have enough?
Hooked002 - December 20th, 2012 21:43 GMT




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SO now we have PDP ECNL, Nor cal PDP and ODP.  Geez do we have enough?
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I dislike multiple unconnected gaming leagues, but I don't mind multiple unconnected training/identifcation programs.  In my mind, the more opportunities to be identified, the more opportunities to be trained outside one's team/club, and the more opportunities to play with and against players from outside one's immediate area, the better.
20sDad - December 21st, 2012 05:00 GMT


PDP/ID2 are essentially the same programs as theoretically one leads into the other. 

I think you'll see ODP start to die off beginning with the 98 age group, at least here in NorCal.
soccerwest - December 21st, 2012 06:47 GMT


I don't think they will die off completely....there were a good number of girls there.  There are plenty of parents that will pay the money for exposure. 

I noticed all of the Mustang, De Anza and Santa rosa girls went the state PDP  route.   

Besides PDP training who do they play on a state level?
20sDad - December 21st, 2012 23:00 GMT
Edited by 20sDad on December 21st, 2012 23:01 GMT

Iím kind of hesitant to say this at the risk of offending anyone but the only kids 98 and below that Iím aware of that do ODP are ones that arenít at the highest level and whose parents are hedging their bets.  I could be wrong but thatís just my perception based on what Iíve seen.  The top kids starting at 98 are going the PDP/ID2 route as well as direct invitations to NTC trainings and actual YNT camps. 

Clubs like Mustang, DeAnza, SRU, etc. are all pretty much US Club and focus primarily on their programs by now.

As far as what the PDP state team does, the Vegas tournament is the only time Iím aware of that the 98 pool has actually played as a team.  PDP put together a team from the pool of players and entered the tournament in the same fashion any other club team would.  NorCal PDP is a relatively new program but its growing and improving quickly.  The evolution of the program of the last couple of years has been pretty impressive IMO.  Adding to this, ECNL has their own built in identification program. 

I donít see many parents of top players willing to pay for ODP when there are other free programs offering better opportunities IMO.
Toneib - December 21st, 2012 23:17 GMT




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Iím kind of hesitant to say this at the risk of offending anyone but the only kids 98 and below that Iím aware of that do ODP are ones that arenít at the highest level and whose parents are hedging their bets.  I could be wrong but thatís just my perception based on what Iíve seen.  The top kids starting at 98 are going the PDP/ID2 route as well as direct invitations to NTC trainings and actual YNT camps. 

Clubs like Mustang, DeAnza, SRU, etc. are all pretty much US Club and focus primarily on their programs by now.

As far as what the PDP state team does, the Vegas tournament is the only time Iím aware of that the 98 pool has actually played as a team.  PDP put together a team from the pool of players and entered the tournament in the same fashion any other club team would.  NorCal PDP is a relatively new program but its growing and improving quickly.  The evolution of the program of the last couple of years has been pretty impressive IMO.  Adding to this, ECNL has their own built in identification program. 

I donít see many parents of top players willing to pay for ODP when there are other free programs offering better opportunities IMO.

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I agree with 20sDad. ECNL and US Club teams seem to prefer the PDP route. Also, ECNL events become showcases and a way to be ID'd as well.

ODP has been trying to compete (and even changing their requirements, i.e. recommendation only) with PDP. It seems to be fighting a losing battle in NorCal and may end up like the dinosaurs.
Toneib - December 22nd, 2012 00:20 GMT




------ QUOTE from  20sDad, December 21st, 2012 23:00  GMT ------
As far as what the PDP state team does, the Vegas tournament is the only time Iím aware of that the 98 pool has actually played as a team.  PDP put together a team from the pool of players and entered the tournament in the same fashion any other club team would.
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What is the team name the PDP is playing under. Would love to see the results!
20sDad - December 23rd, 2012 03:34 GMT
Edited by 20sDad on December 23rd, 2012 03:36 GMT

http://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?EventID=25691&Group=Girls_16
eastbaysoccer - December 23rd, 2012 03:35 GMT


Nor cal PDP has their act together when it comes to the regional level.  However I'm not sure taking a PDP state team and playing in a regular tournament in Vegas is equivalent to playing at an ODP sub regional event against other states.  Are their plans to play against other PDP state teams? 

ALso do you think this program will be free for long term?  At some point you will have to pay for good coaching.
20sDad - December 23rd, 2012 03:48 GMT


Tell you what... you go with ODP and I'll stick with PDP and we can compare opportunities gained, and money spent, in a couple of years.
Toneib - December 23rd, 2012 05:11 GMT




------ QUOTE from  20sDad, December 23rd, 2012 03:34  GMT ------
http://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?EventID=25691&Group=Girls_16
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Thanks and good luck! True U13/14s playing U16 will be challenging. Size differences between the two are huge! But I bet you will represent NorCal pretty well! 

Can you give us the soccer age breakdown of the team?
eastbaysoccer - December 23rd, 2012 05:34 GMT


@ 20's:

Money aside, you think PDP training is better?  I love the fact that Nor Cal PDP is free and the training is good but do you actually think they will be able to keep this model for long?  Nor cal PDP is in the honeymoon phase right now. It will be interesting to see where it will be in a few years.

Maybe ODP can pull over Greg thompson and some other good coaches from placer!
20sDad - December 23rd, 2012 16:41 GMT




------ QUOTE from  eastbaysoccer, December 23rd, 2012 05:34  GMT ------
@ 20's:

Money aside, you think PDP training is better?  I love the fact that Nor Cal PDP is free and the training is good but do you actually think they will be able to keep this model for long?  Nor cal PDP is in the honeymoon phase right now. It will be interesting to see where it will be in a few years.

Maybe ODP can pull over Greg thompson and some other good coaches from placer!
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I don't know if training is better or not.  I do know that this is the route that the best players 98 and below are going.  The ODP player pool looks very similar to a CYSA state cup bracket at this point.  I also know that PDP has provided some awesome opportunities for my daughter and many other players in terms of invitations to ID2, NTC, and youth national team trainings and camps.  PDP is sustainable and growing.  It is a huge part of ECNL.  So again, we can revisit this in a couple of years if you wish and compare experiences.
20sDad - December 23rd, 2012 16:54 GMT




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http://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?EventID=25691&Group=Girls_16
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Thanks and good luck! True U13/14s playing U16 will be challenging. Size differences between the two are huge! But I bet you will represent NorCal pretty well! 

Can you give us the soccer age breakdown of the team?
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Yes, a very big difference but it's a talented group so hopefully they can overcome and do well.  I'm not sure of the exact age demographics of the roster but I think most are 98's with some of those being young U15's.  There is only one 00/U13 that I am aware of.
BlackOps - December 25th, 2012 01:21 GMT


There's a whole bunch of girls doing both ODP and PDP, at least for the 99's.  From my daughter's perspective, PDP is great training, "...but they do mostly drills and don't play anyone or scrimmage.  In ODP at least we get to travel and play other state teams."  Expensive?  Sure.  So is ECNL.  There is more than one route to get noticed.  And good players get noticed.
20sDad - December 26th, 2012 17:12 GMT


I guess value is in the eye of the beholder and itís very likely that I could change my opinion over the next couple of years.  That said, I donít see anything that ODP can provide that Iím not already getting for free. 

This conversation is actually quite reminiscent of the NCP/US Club vs. CYSA debate on this forum over the past couple of seasons.  I could be completely off base with my observations but I would be interested in seeing the player pool demographics and which clubs and players are still participating in Cal North ODP.  Numbers donít necessarily equate to top players. 
Toneib - December 26th, 2012 17:51 GMT


Might be kind of fun to watch the PDP team play the ODP team. Let the teams settle the discussion on the field.   
soccerwest - December 26th, 2012 22:32 GMT


Looked he roster for the 00 girls and the represented clubs are:

Rays
Palo alto
Placer
Manteca
West coast
Santa  Cruz
Mill valley
Gryphons
Walnut creek
Sporting
Newark
Rage
Castro valley
Mcfc strikers
Ajax
Central Valley 
Etc.........some I could not figure out.

No SRU, MVLA , de Anza, mustang, MVLA, San Juan to my knowledge.

20sDad - December 26th, 2012 23:24 GMT


The lack of MVLA participation at the younger ages is interesting given who their DOC is. 
20sDad - December 26th, 2012 23:39 GMT


In fairness, I don't see any on the PDP roster either.
soccerwest - December 27th, 2012 00:07 GMT


PDP State rosters look heavy with SRU, mustang, de Anza.
No rage, MVLA, San Juan. 

Just means more kids will receive good training and experiences.
Some for free while the others will have to pay.

Good luck to the pdp and ODP state teams in Vegas!
Blues99 - December 28th, 2012 18:52 GMT


Comparing ODP to PDP is comparing oranges to apples.  I agree with Hooked that having multiple unconnected training/identification programs is a good thing for the players and hopefully they will take advantage of these programs, but I still don't know how someone can compared one to the other. 

my understanding is that PDP is free, which is a huge benefit, but ODP at a district or state level(if you are not traveling) is a minimal cost. 
I disagree with 20sDad that ODP will start dying starting with the 98s.  If PDP wants to take over ODP they have many years of work to do.  My daughter only attended one PDP training and that was in order to get an invitation to the MTC sessions.  I'm not very familiar with the PDP program so I'm not going to speak negative of something I'm not familiar with.  This is my daughter's 4th year doing ODP.  This year her state team coach is a Santa Clara assistant coach.  She has three coaches for her Regional IV pool, the head coach at AZ st, head coach at New Mexico st, and the assistant coach at Berkeley, and the main director for Region IV is the head coach at Santa Clara.  Almost at every age group at all regions you  have college coaches involved with ODP teams.  The Region IV Championships will be attended by many coaches from around the country.  Last year my daughter was invited to the ODP National Camp and there were a lot of college coaches there.  As long as ODP keeps drawing college coaches to coach or attend these events I don't see the program dying off.  Is ODP as strong as it was 5 years ago?  Most likely not because of there are more choices but it's still a good venue to be indentify.

PDP is heading in the right directions but my understanding is that so far only a few states have this program.  Even if NorCal and SoCal have a strong PDP program they need for the majority of other states to build similar programs as well so they can have events were they will attract college coaches.  the MLK in Vegas next month is a nice tournament/vacation but I don't see a single team on the u16 list that will attract coaches. 
Blues99 - December 28th, 2012 18:55 GMT


Just curious. 
1. Is NorCal covering the PDP traveling expenses for LV? 
2. Are they traveling as a team or are the parents responsible to get the players there?


One thing that ODP needs to work on is making their events affordable to everyone. 
20sDad - December 28th, 2012 20:42 GMT
Edited by 20sDad on December 28th, 2012 20:43 GMT

The programs are comparable in the sense that both have the same basic objective and seem to be competing for players.  Iíve mentioned the parallel between PDP/ID2/NTC vs. ODP and CYSA State vs. NorCal Premier state cup participation as I think itís an accurate comparison. 

Also, my argument is not based solely on PDP vs. ODP, but rather that there are multiple programs offering similar (if not better) services than ODP for significantly less cost.  I agree that PDP in NorCal itself isnít the end all/be all of developmental/identification currently but it is picking up steam where as ODP here is withering along with its CYSA counterpart.  More than that, PDP is leading into other programs that are more established.  As Iíve already stated, the three players from our club that have had national team camp invites over the past 1-2 years have done so outside of the ODP process.  Just through basic familiarity with these ages groups being discussed, ODP isnít attracting the majority of top players and isnít utilized at all by some of the larger clubs.  Hence my inference that it is starting to die off with the 98ís and below.  How long coaches will continue to be at the events if the best players arenít thereÖor, even if the coaches are there, will it matter if the player isnít a top talent?

I do think people lose focus of the fact that PDP and ID2 are not NCP programs but rather US Club programs and the ECNL versions far exceed our local version in terms of player talent, quality of coaching, and player exposure.  And while ECNL comes at a cost, those programs do not represent the additional cost that comes with PDP.
20sDad - December 28th, 2012 20:48 GMT




------ QUOTE from  Blues99, December 28th, 2012 18:55  GMT ------
Just curious. 
1. Is NorCal covering the PDP traveling expenses for LV? 
2. Are they traveling as a team or are the parents responsible to get the players there?


One thing that ODP needs to work on is making their events affordable to everyone. 
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Parents pay for travel PDP pays for lodging, etc.

Details haven't been release but I'm assuming that the girls will have to travel as a group for logistical purposes.
soccerwest - January 03rd, 2013 00:25 GMT


The ODP Schedule is out:

http://regioniv.usyouthsoccer.org/odp/odp_championships/

I did not see the Cal North 99 girls in there ?
Blues99 - January 07th, 2013 03:24 GMT




------ QUOTE from  soccerwest, January 03rd, 2013 00:25  GMT ------
The ODP Schedule is out:

http://regioniv.usyouthsoccer.org/odp/odp_championships/

I did not see the Cal North 99 girls in there ?
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99s are going.  some teams were left out so they are revising the schedule.  It will probably be posted Thursday night or Friday before the first games.
Gryphons Dad - January 09th, 2013 01:33 GMT


99 Cal North Girls ODP Vegas schedule:

Fri 4:00 Cal North vs Washington
Sat 1:00 Cal North vs New Mexico
Sat 5:30 Cal North vs Arizona
Sun: Semi Finals and Finals
soccerwest - January 09th, 2013 04:16 GMT


00 Cal North Girls Schedule:

Friday
Cal South vs. Cal North
Nevad vs. Cal North

Saturday
Arizona vs. Cal North
Washington vs. Cal North
mvlafan - January 09th, 2013 20:07 GMT




------ QUOTE from  Blues99, December 28th, 2012 18:55  GMT ------
Just curious. 
One thing that ODP needs to work on is making their events affordable to everyone. 
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CYSA District 2 is paying 100% of the expenses for all CYSA District 2 players attending the ODP Championships.  District 2 recently put in place this ODP scholarship program to cover the cost of state and regional events for all CYSA District 2 players.  ODP is a great program - and no cost to CYSA District 2 players.
Norcaldad - January 09th, 2013 20:43 GMT


Anyone have any predictions?
KeeperDad - January 09th, 2013 21:18 GMT
Edited by KeeperDad on January 09th, 2013 21:19 GMT

There's an interesting mention of ODP in http://www.examiner.com/article/jerry-smith-santa-clara-u-women-s-soccer (this article (an interview with Jerry Smith .

It's about 3/5 of the way into the article. If you search on "Olympic Development Program" on that page, you'll find the mention quickly. It's just in that one paragraph. The article was published yesterday, so it's up-to-date news.
Blues99 - January 10th, 2013 00:32 GMT




------ QUOTE from  KeeperDad, January 09th, 2013 21:18  GMT ------
There's an interesting mention of ODP in http://www.examiner.com/article/jerry-smith-santa-clara-u-women-s-soccer (this article (an interview with Jerry Smith .

It's about 3/5 of the way into the article. If you search on "Olympic Development Program" on that page, you'll find the mention quickly. It's just in that one paragraph. The article was published yesterday, so it's up-to-date news.
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very good article.  Last year at the Idaho camp he made it clear to the players and coaches that he was going to make a lot of changes.
Blues99 - January 10th, 2013 00:37 GMT




------ QUOTE from  Norcaldad, January 09th, 2013 20:43  GMT ------
Anyone have any predictions?
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I'm predicting a very cold weekend.  I think highs will be in the low 40's in Las Vegas.  I will be there so maybe I will send an update or two.



I'm also predicting the 97 team making it to the championship game.  Hopefully I'm not going to jinx them, but IMO they are strongest 97 Cal North team in the four years of ODP.
Blues99 - January 10th, 2013 00:39 GMT




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------ QUOTE from  Blues99, December 28th, 2012 18:55  GMT ------
Just curious. 
One thing that ODP needs to work on is making their events affordable to everyone. 
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CYSA District 2 is paying 100% of the expenses for all CYSA District 2 players attending the ODP Championships.  District 2 recently put in place this ODP scholarship program to cover the cost of state and regional events for all CYSA District 2 players.  ODP is a great program - and no cost to CYSA District 2 players.
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That's great that they can offer it free of cost. I got the 411 on how they are able to do it, and also found out that our district(6) didn't want to implement the same program because their main concern are the rec players and keeping cost as low as possible to them.  I'm also a little disappointed that the cost for this tournament went from $950 last year to $1175 this year.  The cost for the ODP National Camp, which is also later this month went up as well. That's around $2000 in one month for those "lucky" parents.
soccerwest - January 10th, 2013 02:11 GMT


Godd luck to your dd Blues.  Maybe I'll check out the the 97's between our games.
Blues99 - January 10th, 2013 19:34 GMT




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Godd luck to your dd Blues.  Maybe I'll check out the the 97's between our games.
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Thank you and good luck to your dd and the 00s.  Sucks that they have to open the tournament vs Cal South.  I can't remember the last time (or any time) we kept it within 3 goals vs the 97 Cal South.
20sDad - January 10th, 2013 22:05 GMT




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------ QUOTE from  Blues99, December 28th, 2012 18:55  GMT ------
Just curious. 
One thing that ODP needs to work on is making their events affordable to everyone. 
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CYSA District 2 is paying 100% of the expenses for all CYSA District 2 players attending the ODP Championships.  District 2 recently put in place this ODP scholarship program to cover the cost of state and regional events for all CYSA District 2 players.  ODP is a great program - and no cost to CYSA District 2 players.
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That's great that they can offer it free of cost. I got the 411 on how they are able to do it, and also found out that our district(6) didn't want to implement the same program because their main concern are the rec players and keeping cost as low as possible to them.  I'm also a little disappointed that the cost for this tournament went from $950 last year to $1175 this year.  The cost for the ODP National Camp, which is also later this month went up as well. That's around $2000 in one month for those "lucky" parents. 
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That's unfortunate.  Offering the program free of charge would be huge.  I can't figure where the $1175 per player expense comes from unless part of it goes toward subsidizing the coachesí expenses.  Even then, it seems extreme.
soccerwest - January 12th, 2013 02:02 GMT


OO Cal North results

Lost to Cal South 2-0.  1-0 for most of the game then a very late fluke goal. 

Tied Nevada 0-0.  Lots of shot for Cal North but none went in. 
Hooked002 - January 15th, 2013 01:00 GMT


Hopefully, each individual had a positive experience.  Collectively, from a W-L-D perspective, the teams' performances appear to be about average for the event:

97G: 0-1-2
98G: 1-0-2
99G: 1-1-1
00G: 0-2-1
soccerwest - January 17th, 2013 05:15 GMT




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Hopefully, each individual had a positive experience.  Collectively, from a W-L-D perspective, the teams' performances appear to be about average for the event:

97G: 0-1-2
98G: 1-0-2
99G: 1-1-1
00G: 0-2-1
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Girls had a great time in Vegas.  The play on the field was much better than the score indicated.  We would do it again if selected.
Blues99 - January 17th, 2013 21:12 GMT


Not a good weekend for soccer especially from a spectators point of view.  The 97s had 4 games.  1 loss and 3 ties.  Their loss was probably their best played soccer but  conditions were horrible over the weekend.  The game temperature for 3 of those games were in the high 30's and low 30's for the other game.  I don't think I ever remember a colder tournament.  Very winding as well.  8 out of the 9 goals scored during our games came in the same direction.  Two of them came off our goal kicks that barely made it to the 18.  The other teams were able to take better advantage of the weather conditions than us.  A lot of injuries too.  I believe 5 of our girls got injured including 3 of the 6 Regional players on the team.  One of them, our center back was injured 10 minutes into the first game and couldn't play the rest of the tournament.  Another regional/national player, our left back, could only play for the first half of our first game and 10 minutes of game #3. 
 
Over all I still think this group has more talent than any other 97 Cal North team, but even if the playing conditions were perfect it was clear that they need more time+ playing together to be on the same page.  ODP should pick the teams a couple months before to give them time to practice together or play a few scrimmages before making the trip. 
 
Sunday was a good day for them since they got to spend a few hours at the Strip.

Congrats to the three Cal North girls that made the "All Tournament Team".  One from the 97', 98' and 00'.  I'm a proud dad as my daughter made it for the 2nd year in a row.
Gryphons Dad - January 17th, 2013 22:48 GMT




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Congrats to the three Cal North girls that made the "All Tournament Team".  One from the 97', 98' and 00'.  I'm a proud dad as my daughter made it for the 2nd year in a row.

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Where did you get the list?  Guess no Cal North 99's? 

The word cold doesn't even describe the conditions out there.  Saturday's late game was almost unwatchable.
soccerwest - January 18th, 2013 15:23 GMT


List ? Where did you see this?  Congrats  to those that made the list.
That ground was like cement out there!
Blues99 - January 18th, 2013 15:47 GMT


Below is the link. It's right below the list that shows that Cal South won 9 out of the 10 championships. 


http://regioniv.usyouthsoccer.org/odp/odp_championships/
soccerwest - January 18th, 2013 20:25 GMT




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Below is the link. It's right below the list that shows that Cal South won 9 out of the 10 championships. 


http://regioniv.usyouthsoccer.org/odp/odp_championships/

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Oh thanks.  To add we had some girls that IMO also had a good weekend on the frozen pitch.  They represented their clubs well (Manteca, Rays, Placer, Rage, etc.....)

If we had a few more practices under our belt we likely would have been more successful in the win column.


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