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drock1331 January 25th, 2013 18:07 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: eastbaysoccer, January 25th, 2013 17:31  GMT

Quoted from: 20sDad, January 24th, 2013 22:43  GMT
Another point, "boom ball' is a coaching issue... not a field issue.


........and a parent issue. How many times how you seen a fullback boot  the ball down the field and hear the parents scream, " good job".


or "niiiiiiice...."

gets on my nerves! It's not fourth down. If it's a goaline scramble, sure, but more often than not it is definitely not necessary.
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20sDad January 25th, 2013 19:37 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: mtnlady, January 25th, 2013 17:26  GMT
Wrong, you can coach players all day long on possession but they figure out pretty quick that big field, we're faster than they other team and off the ball goes.


If a coach can't prevent his/her team from playing that way, he or she is a poor coach.  Flat out, end of story.  Pushing the blame onto the players and parents is just bad form.

I think you’re also misunderstanding the point of NCP’s field dimension proposal and the fact that part is the proposal is reducing the amount of players.  It’s about increased touches - not teaching tactics (i.e. possession soccer).  If you read the proposal, NCP isn’t even emphasizing “passing interactions” until they reach a full field.  

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mtnlady January 25th, 2013 19:55 GMT Print this post
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This message was edited by mtnlady on January 25th, 2013 19:58 GMT


Quoted from: 20sDad, January 25th, 2013 19:37  GMT

Quoted from: mtnlady, January 25th, 2013 17:26  GMT
Wrong, you can coach players all day long on possession but they figure out pretty quick that big field, we're faster than they other team and off the ball goes.


If a coach can't prevent his/her team from playing that way, he or she is a poor coach.  Flat out, end of story.  Pushing the blame onto the players and parents is just bad form.

I think you’re also misunderstanding the point of NCP’s field dimension proposal and the fact that part is the proposal is reducing the amount of players.  It’s about increased touches - not teaching tactics (i.e. possession soccer).  If you read the proposal, NCP isn’t even emphasizing “passing interactions” until they reach a full field.  


Read the proposal again. It covers both younger teams (reduce playing numbers and field size) AND mid age teams (reduce field size). We'll just have to agree to disagree about the importance of field space on how players play.  

As for parents I think you guys worry too much about winning and thus your great concern as to the field size. Your afraid that it will put your team at some sort of competitive disadvantage.  

The affect the field size (and player numbers) on playing skills is well documented. And NO I am not going to look up the information for you. Much too busy. You can do that research yourself.
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20sDad January 25th, 2013 21:29 GMT Print this post
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I have read the proposal and also had the opportunity to speak with people from NCP and your interpretation represents only a small part of their reasoning behind the proposal.  It’s focused primarily on reducing the amount of players to increase touches per player thus improving individual skills.  

Smaller field dimensions are primarily to accommodate the player reduction and the amounts of physical exertion younger players are capable of rather than a driving principle of the proposal.  Re-read it.

As for the rest, don’t take yourself so seriously.  It’s a thread about state cup, of course we’re going to be discussing winning and factors affecting the competitive advantage.  I hate to break it to you but it’s a simple game and most parents are capable to understanding it both tactically and from a bigger picture perspective.

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eastbaysoccer January 25th, 2013 22:39 GMT Print this post
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....and getting back to the games. A couple of big games on Saturday to check out.

West Coast vs. AFA. :   possible three way tie for 1st if West wins and AFA beats Mustang.  A possible scenario given that West lost to Mustang by 1 goal earlier and AFA already beat Mustang this year.  Could a gold team sneak into the top 8?

Placer vs.  Diablo:  will be close and could decide the the bracket.  0-0 or 1-0 as a final.
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drock1331 January 26th, 2013 00:49 GMT Print this post
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I looked at their record this fall season. Are WC a premier caliber team? They dominate a good looking Gold division but then get smacked around by Novato or Stockton Pumas.

I saw them play at the Juventus tournament, as they were a game before us, they looked ok.

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mtnlady January 26th, 2013 16:18 GMT Print this post
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SRU Tremors
Mustang Pride (2 wins already)
MVLA
Group D? (I still have a hard time believe PU's team deserves top 8? Surely Diablo or Santa Clara will step up?)
Davis
Force (2 wins already)
San Juan Blue (Barcelona has a 2W, 1L record so SJ can't make a mistake but they already control the tie breaker)
Newcastle (unless they are really hurting)

Q: What brackets are the toughest brackets in that they have 2 or more strong teams? Which bracket has the most premier level teams in them? I see quite a few Gold teams still in the mix here?
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Toneib January 26th, 2013 18:19 GMT Print this post
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Any word on the early games?
SRU Tremors  vs  GSC Gryphons 99G Red  
Burlingame SC RAYS 99G  vs  SCA 00GN  

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20sDad January 26th, 2013 18:54 GMT Print this post
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Tremors 7-1
Burlingame 2-1
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Toneib January 26th, 2013 19:46 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: 20sDad, January 26th, 2013 18:54  GMT
Tremors 7-1
Burlingame 2-1


Thanks! Looks like we might have to rely on parents for up-to-date scores since the NorCal page hasn't been updated with any completed matches.  
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