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all in April 30th, 2012 21:16 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: soccer hottie, April 30th, 2012 17:58  GMT
I heard De Anza was dominating the game and up 1-0 in the first half with several key players out with injuries. Fury scored their goals when subs came in... Wasn't this one of the reasons family left De Anza and went to Fury - several players on De Anza are rec players and should not be playing Club? Going to be interesting controversy......


Give it a rest! Your kid's on a new team now. Let it go!
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barbie June 13th, 2012 17:38 GMT Print this post
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Been a few a months since the fall out. How has everything turned out?
Are DeAnza players excelling? Has DeAnza team recovered? Are players who left at a better place?Interesting case study about loyatly to Rec players on team since young age/politics vs. loyalty to and attracting impact players.. Is it really all about winning? Does having a stacked team make all the players look better and hence easier to be recruited?  

DeAnza not picked for Surf cup. Can't attract top quality players. Player at Danville who left DeAnza only playing half the game and some parents not happy with mom... Deja vu..... Seems like all parties involved would have benefited if they would have worked things out.....Lessons learned for other teams
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defensefirst June 15th, 2012 20:38 GMT Print this post
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This message was edited by defensefirst on June 15th, 2012 20:38 GMT

BARBIE no one cares what Deanza force is doing. SM behind the scenes broke up a very good PAC team with his illegal recruitment of those players.  That part of your story will never come out. But that is old news.  Who cares about the new Danville player.  Good for her  for leaving.  She is playing half on a better team, will get more exposure from universities than playing fulltime for your team.  Seems to be the topic from many of you force supporters. Worry about your own child on that team. what I have seen your defenders are kick ballers. Only one player would play on most of the elite teams, and she has not developed.  deanza played weak opponents for most of those wins in ECNL, and dont deserve to play Surf. 5th place post (2nd to last place) in the division.  What do you expect, winning attracts players.  
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defensefirst June 15th, 2012 20:42 GMT Print this post
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BARBIE no one cares what Deanza force is doing. SM behind the scenes broke up a very good PAC team with his illegal recruitment of those players.  That part of your story will never come out. But that is old news.  Who cares about the new Danville player.  Good for her  for leaving.  She is playing half on a better team, will get more exposure from universities than playing fulltime for your team.  Seems to be the topic from many of you force supporters. Worry about your own child on that team. what I have seen your defenders are kick ballers. Only one player would play on most of the elite teams, and she has not developed.  deanza played weak opponents for most of those wins in ECNL, and doesnt deserve to play Surf. 5th place post (2nd to last place) in the division.  What do you expect, winning attracts players.  SURF is for ELITE teams..Not FORCE
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barbie June 15th, 2012 23:25 GMT Print this post
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Wow. First of all I am not associated with DeAnza Force. I find this an interesting case study based on two different philosophies. I can see both sides of the ball on this one... Not sure which one I agree with or agree with some of both sides.. My understanding was same parent who caused all the greif at DeAnza was the same parent who caused the PAC break up and is now having issues at danville. Pleass enlighten us if this incorrect... I thought several of the DeAnza defenders are highly recruited college soccer players, so they can't be that bad?  My post was not meant to demean anyone just to study/understand the different philosophies. Seems other players who left DeAnza are doing great! Seems DeAnza players who are still on team are getting college exposure/ scholarships and the drama is over. Does winning really matter with ECNL? Do you really need to attract elite players? Should we respect SM for staying loyal to the girls and families he has known for most of the girls lives despite their soccer skills? or is he as so many described a used car sales man? Is it better to have an average team with balance and no drama than en elite team with lots of drama? Does winning lead to scholraships or do the college coaches really care? Or is the winning all about the parents living vicariously through their kids? I could keep going on, but what a fascinating club soccer adventure.
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defensefirst June 16th, 2012 04:49 GMT Print this post
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BARBIE:  Winning does matter in ECNL or they would not keep standings of wins and losses. Players want to win games, and want to play on a team that competes. 15th place in the B bracket of ECNL will not sell any prospective players to come there.  Highly recruited defenders, again I will say one is worthy. nothing against the others..just an opinion.  Until you have offers on the table, then you are highly recruited.  More wins lead to more coaches come to your games.  danza is still considered a lower level team. 2 years in ECNL and still cannot get into the top five.  

A history lesson for you, the player that left deanza for danville, left PAC for danville not deanza.  she joined later.  the parent was not liked because of being outspoken.  players left for various reasons, but the bottom line they left because they were not happy with the coaches.  the PAC was a very talented team, and after winning the Nor Cal Championship the team disbanded.  I posted many comments of my opinions about the situation in past blogs

Will danza get players to college? of course.  Many for academic .  Very difficult to get D1 scholarships if your marginal.  only 14 scholarships to give out per D1 program.  do the math. Looking at the GOT soccer roster I will guarantee the two former PAC players will get one, and the defender  

I dont buy your not a deanza parent, you are too opinionted..but that is my opinion.
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barbie June 18th, 2012 22:46 GMT Print this post
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DEFENSEFIRST:  Not a DeAnza parent yet, But considering having 2 kids various ages join. Lots of rumors floating out there and just trying to figure out what makes sense.. Two different coaching philosophies about winning. My understanding is Club teams should have the highest calibar players playing at the highest level of competition to improve. Should be based on merit of players and not on personal relationships/politics. marginal players do  not help their team mates become better and in most cases do not help the elite players improve. The better your team mates the better a player looks and hence recruited... However, there is somethng to be said about a coaches loyalty to parents/kids who he has coached since they were youngsters... I guess it all comes down to which philosophy you subscribe too and how good your kid is. Seems like "out spoken" parent should either put up or shut up - probably why they keep changing teams.. Anyway I found the blogs interesting.. and this thread will really help our family in deciding in which direction to go.
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The real shimpy June 19th, 2012 12:58 GMT Print this post
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That parents kid committed to Oregon. So it doesnt matter how many teams she left for in the end they got there cake.
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barbie June 20th, 2012 23:13 GMT Print this post
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I guess congrats are in order! I have a dumb question? Why would anyone committ as an incoming junior? Would it not make sense to wait and evaluate several schools and then make an informed desicion. If one school makes an offer others should follow.... Or am I misssing something? How is Oregon academically? It seems as if athletics should be used in conjunction with grades as a way to get into a highly rated college. Anyway, congrats on the commitement!!
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all in August 30th, 2012 17:37 GMT Print this post
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Looks like De Anza's having a good open premier league so far!


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