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zona4eva March 19th, 2012 22:42 GMT Print this post
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Agree. This isn't pro sports where players are on contract and are forced to stay. If someone wants to leave for any reason then let them be. Where problems occur is when that family then tries to drag 2-3 others with them. Then it gets ugly. Best of luck to the team staying strong.
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Mustang Dad March 20th, 2012 04:11 GMT Print this post
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This message was edited by Mustang Dad on March 20th, 2012 04:12 GMT


Quoted from: justgowithit, March 19th, 2012 17:10  GMT
DeAnza filing formal protest with ECNL for rule violations against Danville and the player.


So what "rule" was supposedly broken?  USSF rules for youth players expressly permit this, and US Club Soccer has no rule forbidding a youth player from scrimmaging with another team.  Playing in a match sanctioned by US Club Soccer, perhaps, but a scrimmage?  Don't be silly.

If DeAnza's coach is really pursuing this then he's way over-the-line.
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MVLA Mom March 21st, 2012 17:03 GMT Print this post
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It's been way too long since I've been on here. Glad to see so many familiar names  Anyway, I'm scratching my head a little.  I remember all the drama and crazy posting back when we were U9, U10, U11.  Weren't we all a little nutty about our kids and who was going where and who beat who?? What I've noticed now that my daughter drives herself and the college stuff is already in process, well it's time to sit back and enjoy the show.  Even on our own team, it's not eating at me if a player joins or one leaves.  I'm really not concerned about what's going on with other teams' player movement.  I go to the games and enjoy watching a high level of soccer. I enjoy watching a game that it's all about the players.  At 16, we can probably all agree that our daughter's aren't really listening to us especially if it's giving soccer advice.  I don't see the same coach or parents screaming at refs. It's much more laid back.  

For the case of player movement. I bet none of us knows the REAL story on any player's choice to leave.  The player knows, the parents know and the coach knows.  That's it.  The argument for the player is that they aren't pros tied to a contract and should be allowed to move. The argument for the coach is that they held a roster spot for that player and devoted time to melding that player into their system.  "Loyalty" is a value that we may all have at vastly different levels. Is a coach expected to be loyal to players on a team simply because they have been in the program for xx years? Is a player expected to be loyal to a team and stay even though they may not want to play at the same level anymore, other interests, maybe not getting play time because they are the 18th player, whatever?  Let the girls play. Let's hope no teams have to fold.  Enjoy these last years of club soccer.
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MVLA Mom March 21st, 2012 17:04 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: Toneib, March 19th, 2012 15:46  GMT

Quoted from: flash-42, March 19th, 2012 15:31  GMT

Quoted from: justgowithit, March 19th, 2012 06:20  GMT
Over 4 impact players were cut by coach = one was picked up by MVLA and teh other is a great defender probably going to Danville. Others oing to rage.  


My DD joined Rage about two weeks ago, but I haven't seen any De Anza players working out yet. Tell them to come over, we only had 13 healthy at yesterdays game.  


I guess you had enough healthy to beat Fury though.  
Impressive result, Rage. Congrats. Not many teams in the entire country can say they beat Fury.
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sokkerlife March 22nd, 2012 04:11 GMT Print this post
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I see that some of the DeAnza players that had left are on the Mustang roster now.

http://rankings.gotsport.com/rankings/team.aspx?teamid=146085


Life is to short, playing fair shouldn't be an option.
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Toneib March 22nd, 2012 04:28 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: sokkerlife, March 22nd, 2012 04:11  GMT
I see that some of the DeAnza players that had left are on the Mustang roster now.

http://rankings.gotsport.com/rankings/team.aspx?teamid=146085



IMO, there isn't too much to read into regarding the roster. Revolution is not the ECNL team, and is missing several players this coming weekend. The De Anza players are most likely guest players only, but only time will tell.
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knowitall March 22nd, 2012 04:57 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: sokkerlife, March 22nd, 2012 04:11  GMT
I see that some of the DeAnza players that had left are on the Mustang roster now.

http://rankings.gotsport.com/rankings/team.aspx?teamid=146085


Sokkerlife what do you gain by putting up a link so that people can identify the girls in which you are talking about?  What are you 12 years old?  Because actions such as this are totally inappropriate and wrong.  

Toneib, you are a global moderator? and allow this?  Shame on you too!
"...never speak out of fear..."
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Toneib March 22nd, 2012 05:53 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: knowitall, March 22nd, 2012 04:57  GMT

Quoted from: sokkerlife, March 22nd, 2012 04:11  GMT
I see that some of the DeAnza players that had left are on the Mustang roster now.

http://rankings.gotsport.com/rankings/team.aspx?teamid=146085


Sokkerlife what do you gain by putting up a link so that people can identify the girls in which you are talking about?  What are you 12 years old?  Because actions such as this are totally inappropriate and wrong.  

Toneib, you are a global moderator? and allow this?  Shame on you too!


knowitall, when rosters are made public by the teams then they are fair game to scrutinize. If you have a problem with public rosters, take it up with the coach/manager of the team.

And yes, I am a GM. My main concern is naming youth players on this forum, not policing available rosters posted on the web.  I can't censor information that is readlily availalble to those who know how to search, sorry! I did not name names, only reported probable guest players.
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Hooked002 March 22nd, 2012 06:24 GMT Print this post
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Toneib doesn't need my support on this issue, but I'm giving it any way:  Thanks for all your good work as GM on this board.

Now, if you could get the ages to match the Unumbers . . . .  
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sokkerlife March 22nd, 2012 06:24 GMT Print this post
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I wasn't implying that going to Mustang was a bad thing, I just had noticed that two of the players went to Mustang, and one went to MVLA. I think that it shows that it's not a bad thing to leave a team, and it worked out for everyone. If you're not happy with a team, it's time to move on.  http://rankings.gotsport.com/rankings/team.aspx?teamid=22125



Life is to short, playing fair shouldn't be an option.
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