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sokkerlife March 22nd, 2012 06:36 GMT Print this post
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This message was edited by sokkerlife on March 22nd, 2012 06:37 GMT


Quoted from: sokkerlife, March 22nd, 2012 06:24  GMT
I wasn't implying that going to Mustang was a bad thing, I just had noticed that two of the players went to Mustang, and one went to MVLA. I think that it shows that it's not a bad thing to leave a team, and it worked out for everyone. If you're not happy with a team, it's time to move on.  http://rankings.gotsport.com/rankings/team.aspx?teamid=22125


I also believe that DeAnza filing formal protest with ECNL is a joke! Let the kids play!
Life is to short, playing fair shouldn't be an option.
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Toneib March 22nd, 2012 13:52 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: Hooked002, March 22nd, 2012 06:24  GMT
Now, if you could get the ages to match the Unumbers . . . .  


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Mustang Dad March 22nd, 2012 20:18 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: sokkerlife, March 22nd, 2012 06:24  GMT
I wasn't implying that going to Mustang was a bad thing, I just had noticed that two of the players went to Mustang, and one went to MVLA. I think that it shows that it's not a bad thing to leave a team, and it worked out for everyone. If you're not happy with a team, it's time to move on.  http://rankings.gotsport.com/rankings/team.aspx?teamid=22125




Its my understanding that these players a guesting at the LV showcase this weekend, a non-ECNL event (as is allowed under USSF, US Club and ECNL rules).  The GotSoccer roster probably got updated because LV Showcase uses GotSoccer for its management system.  Nothing about GotSoccer represents any kind of "official" roster for any team.

People need to relax a bit on the "I've got proof the players moved" thing.  Mustang doesn't even hold their tryouts at this age for another couple of weeks.  These players may or may no choose to try out.  The team may or may not agree to invite them onto the team.  The players may or may not decide to accept that invite.  But its new season tryouts...there is no scandal to expose.
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justgowithit March 23rd, 2012 00:07 GMT Print this post
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The coaches hold all the power - they tell you anything to get your kid to committ and then when they have you .... well enough said.
BTW - the word is the DeAnza player going to Mustang is pretty good but the mom is over the top.... Been through 5 teams in the last 7 years and is never happy. Feel sory for all the parents at Fury.. plus family expects 100% full ride scholarship even though dad makes great money as Lexus mechanic. At DeAnza player got a free ride, kid played all the time, coach was really good to them and parents still not happy......... Asked to try out at MVLA and coach turned them down due to mom even though MVLA was looking for defenders........imagine that.
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knowitall March 23rd, 2012 00:30 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: justgowithit, March 23rd, 2012 00:07  GMT
The coaches hold all the power - they tell you anything to get your kid to committ and then when they have you .... well enough said.
BTW - the word is the DeAnza player going to Mustang is pretty good but the mom is over the top.... Been through 5 teams in the last 7 years and is never happy. Feel sory for all the parents at Fury.. plus family expects 100% full ride scholarship even though dad makes great money as Lexus mechanic. At DeAnza player got a free ride, kid played all the time, coach was really good to them and parents still not happy......... Asked to try out at MVLA and coach turned them down due to mom even though MVLA was looking for defenders........imagine that.


Wow you must either know this family in some way, or you must be SM!  you are just upset because this player left....shame on you for not wanting a player to improve thier skills, but we all know how you feel about that...
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Toneib March 23rd, 2012 05:41 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: knowitall, March 23rd, 2012 00:30  GMT
Wow you must either know this family in some way, or you must be SM!  you are just upset because this player left....shame on you for not wanting a player to improve thier skills, but we all know how you feel about that...


knowitall, can we lay off the "shame on you" antics. My guess is that all of the users of this forum are way too old to be scolded by an anonymous person.

Facts are facts. Two current, former, soon to be former, or insert label here players are guest playing with a non-ECNL Mustang Revolution team that is short handed this weekend at the LV Showcase. Read into it whatever you choose to read into it. As Mustang Dad posted earlier, Mustang tryouts haven't even occurred for the fall U17s yet so only time will tell if these two, or any other two, will be on the U17 Fury or U17 Revolution roster.
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knowitall March 23rd, 2012 06:06 GMT Print this post
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Toneib, I am shocked and surprised that you are scolding me!  you an anonymous person, I think i am way too old for this, no?  

I completly agree with MustangDad.  guestplayers probably, tryouts not yet happened, i get that...

It is "justgowithit" who i believe is out of line.  what does he gain by dragging this players personal information onto the forum?  talking about the mom, talking about their finances. Oh, but he didn't name any names so its ok, and i guess this is all public knowledge, so this is ok too. why bash somebody for leaving a team?  from what I understand SM knew before hand that this player was not going to stay for another season....it was no surprise he was told by the parents ahead of time!! hello!!!  and for your information "justgowithit" when was the last time you asked a mechanic how much money they made?  that $150 an hour you pay to get your car fixed goes to the company, not even 1/4 of it goes to pay the mechanic...
it's sad that people such as "justgowithit" and "the real shimpy" have to berate people..why?  to make themselves feel better..
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MVLA Mom March 23rd, 2012 14:34 GMT Print this post
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"The coaches hold all the power"Really?  We entrust coaches to teach our players how to play and to give them the skills they need to succeed. We pay the fees (or potentially have scholarship) we can talk to the other parents. Parents can pull their player for any number of reason - or for NO reason. If a coach is really bad (UNETHICAL OR ILLEGAL OR INSANE) parents have a forum to discuss it. If you are going to question a coach about playing time or other players, then maybe you should be coaching your player.  Maybe you should try your hand at at.  I haven't heard of a coach that wants to lose a game.  A coach that has a poor record probably won't be able to recruit very well, right? So it will come back to bite them in the rear.  

"...mom is over the top"
My observation of parents at U16 and older is that there is less involvement (other than college selection).  As an example, just look at how the posts on this board at U16 and older significantly drop off.  Go watch State Cup games or Surf Cup games at the older ages.  You don't see the hot headed parents berating the refs, you see parents sitting in chairs, sipping their coffee, enjoying the match (the "nirvana of soccer"). Many clubs now have chaperones for away travel and parents don't even go or if they do they don't stay at the same hotel. A coach or DOC can set rules for spectator behavior. It happened at my daughter's high school and I can tell you from freshman year to now, I have NOT seen any poor parent behavior. It is a known fact that it won't be tolerated.  I know the parent you are speaking of and I have never personally witnessed any bad behavior (saw her at 23 games this year).

This kind of goes back to my last post... we don't know what goes on behind closed doors. We don't know the dialogue between a coach and the player/parent. It is all speculation on our part.  Let them be.  Enjoy YOUR daughter. Support YOUR daughter.  SM is going to be around for a long time as he has respect in the soccer community and has had a successful track record. If you don't want your child to play for him then don't.  I bet the players on his current team love their team.  

...and on family finances
This economy sucks. You don't know what family expenses are on top of what someone makes. Haven't you heard of people who own multi-million dollar homes who are struggling to make their mortgage? Appearances aren't everything. It's poor taste to judge a family's financial situation based on a job, a house, a car they drive, or where their kids go to school. All kids should be able to play soccer and not be priced out. Soccer is ridiculously expensive.  I am glad that scholarships are made available to families in need. I know that people perceive MVLA as having "rich kids" but there are players on scholarship. There is a process in place within the club where a family submits their tax returns and income/expense summary.  Not sure if all clubs do this, but I would guess they do to varying extents. At the end of the day, it is the player that is playing NOT the parent that you may not like.  

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MVLA Mom March 23rd, 2012 14:48 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: justgowithit, March 23rd, 2012 00:07  GMT
Asked to try out at MVLA and coach turned them down due to mom even though MVLA was looking for defenders........imagine that.

You obviously don't know MVLA's coach.  The roster has been set and full. There was a loss of one player from the last Fall and that spot was filled.  EM does not want to manage a roster of 22. EM is also one of the most soft-spoken people I have ever met (and I have known her for 10 years now).  She would never tell anyone, except perhaps her husband, that she didn't take a player because of the mom. One of the MVLA defenders who had been sidelined due to injury after Surf Cup returned to action for high school and is playing awesome. Even when she was out, MVLA had no shortage of defenders...and success winning FWRL Fall League with the roster they had.  I think the story about MVLA looking for defenders just doesn't hold water.  The loss last Fall was at a-mid and the new player is an a-mid.  

So where would the rumor come from about "coach turned them down due to mom".... Oh I see.  It was the parents, right?  The mom was so distraught about EM telling her this that she went around and told other people that the coach rejected her dd because of her. Really?  If that actually happened, I think a parent would keep it on the down low.  I am concerned that justgowithit is tapping phones or something.  How would you even know the details of this personal conversation, if it even happened?
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justgowithit March 23rd, 2012 23:41 GMT Print this post
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Luv all the comments - I am a single mom with no opinion one way or the other. However, I do live within my means, I understand how to budget and I always pay my way. If people are living in multi million dollar homes and driving expensive cars and can't meet their obligations - they need to downsize and live within their means and stop mooching - Entitlement attitudes are just wrong!
Secondly, I have many freinds who are parents/coaches and I have made observations. The information I shared is coming directly from them. MVLA mom seems a little preturbed about her precious MVLA players and her coach (which I have the upmost respect for). Why don't you ask the MVLA parents who's players played for St. Francis High School about the SF coaches calling out this particular person last year due to all the negativety by the mom. Pattern?- Enough Said! Thirdly, word from DeAnza families is they feel bad for the player but consensus is player should have been cut 6 months ago due to negativity of mom. Quite happy now and team can move forward with positive energy! Imagine- a Free ride, player played the entire game, coach that was nothing but good to them, college exposure to 100+ college coaches.... What more can a family ask for? Yet with all these wonderful things happening still Ungrateful ..... who is shameful now?
It is ashame about certain parents living vicarisouly through their kids. It's not like there is big future after college for a woman soccer player.......
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