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eastbaysoccer	December 23^rd, 2012 05:34 GMT

Topics: 54 Replies: 776 Post: #52541 PT: #31/65	@ 20's: Money aside, you think PDP training is better? I love the fact that Nor Cal PDP is free and the training is good but do you actually think they will be able to keep this model for long? Nor cal PDP is in the honeymoon phase right now. It will be interesting to see where it will be in a few years. Maybe ODP can pull over Greg thompson and some other good coaches from placer!

20sDad	December 23^rd, 2012 16:41 GMT

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Quoted from: eastbaysoccer, December 23^rd, 2012 05:34 GMT

@ 20's:

Money aside, you think PDP training is better? I love the fact that Nor Cal PDP is free and the training is good but do you actually think they will be able to keep this model for long? Nor cal PDP is in the honeymoon phase right now. It will be interesting to see where it will be in a few years.

Maybe ODP can pull over Greg thompson and some other good coaches from placer!

I don't know if training is better or not. I do know that this is the route that the best players 98 and below are going. The ODP player pool looks very similar to a CYSA state cup bracket at this point. I also know that PDP has provided some awesome opportunities for my daughter and many other players in terms of invitations to ID2, NTC, and youth national team trainings and camps. PDP is sustainable and growing. It is a huge part of ECNL. So again, we can revisit this in a couple of years if you wish and compare experiences.

20sDad	December 23^rd, 2012 16:54 GMT

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Quoted from: Toneib, December 23^rd, 2012 05:11 GMT

Quoted from: 20sDad, December 23^rd, 2012 03:34 GMT

http://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?EventID=25691&Group=Girls_1 6

Thanks and good luck! True U13/14s playing U16 will be challenging. Size differences between the two are huge! But I bet you will represent NorCal pretty well!

Can you give us the soccer age breakdown of the team?

Yes, a very big difference but it's a talented group so hopefully they can overcome and do well. I'm not sure of the exact age demographics of the roster but I think most are 98's with some of those being young U15's. There is only one 00/U13 that I am aware of.

BlackOps	December 25^th, 2012 01:21 GMT

Topics: 0 Replies: 3 Post: #52571 PT: #34/65	There's a whole bunch of girls doing both ODP and PDP, at least for the 99's. From my daughter's perspective, PDP is great training, "...but they do mostly drills and don't play anyone or scrimmage. In ODP at least we get to travel and play other state teams." Expensive? Sure. So is ECNL. There is more than one route to get noticed. And good players get noticed.

20sDad	December 26^th, 2012 17:12 GMT

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I guess value is in the eye of the beholder and it’s very likely that I could change my opinion over the next couple of years. That said, I don’t see anything that ODP can provide that I’m not already getting for free.

This conversation is actually quite reminiscent of the NCP/US Club vs. CYSA debate on this forum over the past couple of seasons. I could be completely off base with my observations but I would be interested in seeing the player pool demographics and which clubs and players are still participating in Cal North ODP. Numbers don’t necessarily equate to top players.

Toneib	December 26^th, 2012 17:51 GMT

Global Moderator Topics: 86 Replies: 668 Post: #52579 PT: #36/65	Might be kind of fun to watch the PDP team play the ODP team. Let the teams settle the discussion on the field.

soccerwest	December 26^th, 2012 22:32 GMT

Topics: 2 Replies: 43 Post: #52581 PT: #37/65	Looked he roster for the 00 girls and the represented clubs are: Rays Palo alto Placer Manteca West coast Santa Cruz Mill valley Gryphons Walnut creek Sporting Newark Rage Castro valley Mcfc strikers Ajax Central Valley Etc.........some I could not figure out. No SRU, MVLA , de Anza, mustang, MVLA, San Juan to my knowledge.

20sDad	December 26^th, 2012 23:24 GMT

Topics: 6 Replies: 1244 Post: #52582 PT: #38/65	The lack of MVLA participation at the younger ages is interesting given who their DOC is.

20sDad	December 26^th, 2012 23:39 GMT

Topics: 6 Replies: 1244 Post: #52584 PT: #39/65	In fairness, I don't see any on the PDP roster either.

soccerwest	December 27^th, 2012 00:07 GMT

Topics: 2 Replies: 43 Post: #52585 PT: #40/65	PDP State rosters look heavy with SRU, mustang, de Anza. No rage, MVLA, San Juan. Just means more kids will receive good training and experiences. Some for free while the others will have to pay. Good luck to the pdp and ODP state teams in Vegas!

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