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Quoted from: soccerwest, December 20th, 2012 19:41 GMTSO now we have PDP ECNL, Nor cal PDP and ODP. Geez do we have enough?
I dislike multiple unconnected gaming leagues, but I don't mind multiple unconnected training/identifcation programs. In my mind, the more opportunities to be identified, the more opportunities to be trained outside one's team/club, and the more opportunities to play with and against players from outside one's immediate area, the better.
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December 21st, 2012 05:00 GMT |
 
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Post: #52490
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PDP/ID2 are essentially the same programs as theoretically one leads into the other.
I think you'll see ODP start to die off beginning with the 98 age group, at least here in NorCal.
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Post: #52492
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I don't think they will die off completely....there were a good number of girls there. There are plenty of parents that will pay the money for exposure.
I noticed all of the Mustang, De Anza and Santa rosa girls went the state PDP route.
Besides PDP training who do they play on a state level?
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| 20sDad |
December 21st, 2012 23:00 GMT |
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This message was edited by 20sDad on December 21st, 2012 23:01 GMT
I’m kind of hesitant to say this at the risk of offending anyone but the only kids 98 and below that I’m aware of that do ODP are ones that aren’t at the highest level and whose parents are hedging their bets. I could be wrong but that’s just my perception based on what I’ve seen. The top kids starting at 98 are going the PDP/ID2 route as well as direct invitations to NTC trainings and actual YNT camps.
Clubs like Mustang, DeAnza, SRU, etc. are all pretty much US Club and focus primarily on their programs by now.
As far as what the PDP state team does, the Vegas tournament is the only time I’m aware of that the 98 pool has actually played as a team. PDP put together a team from the pool of players and entered the tournament in the same fashion any other club team would. NorCal PDP is a relatively new program but its growing and improving quickly. The evolution of the program of the last couple of years has been pretty impressive IMO. Adding to this, ECNL has their own built in identification program.
I don’t see many parents of top players willing to pay for ODP when there are other free programs offering better opportunities IMO.
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| Toneib |
December 21st, 2012 23:17 GMT |
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Post: #52520
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Quoted from: 20sDad, December 21st, 2012 23:00 GMTI’m kind of hesitant to say this at the risk of offending anyone but the only kids 98 and below that I’m aware of that do ODP are ones that aren’t at the highest level and whose parents are hedging their bets. I could be wrong but that’s just my perception based on what I’ve seen. The top kids starting at 98 are going the PDP/ID2 route as well as direct invitations to NTC trainings and actual YNT camps.
Clubs like Mustang, DeAnza, SRU, etc. are all pretty much US Club and focus primarily on their programs by now.
As far as what the PDP state team does, the Vegas tournament is the only time I’m aware of that the 98 pool has actually played as a team. PDP put together a team from the pool of players and entered the tournament in the same fashion any other club team would. NorCal PDP is a relatively new program but its growing and improving quickly. The evolution of the program of the last couple of years has been pretty impressive IMO. Adding to this, ECNL has their own built in identification program.
I don’t see many parents of top players willing to pay for ODP when there are other free programs offering better opportunities IMO.
I agree with 20sDad. ECNL and US Club teams seem to prefer the PDP route. Also, ECNL events become showcases and a way to be ID'd as well.
ODP has been trying to compete (and even changing their requirements, i.e. recommendation only) with PDP. It seems to be fighting a losing battle in NorCal and may end up like the dinosaurs.
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| 20sDad |
December 23rd, 2012 03:34 GMT |
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This message was edited by 20sDad on December 23rd, 2012 03:36 GMT
http://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?EventID=25691&Group=Girls_16
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Post: #52536
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Nor cal PDP has their act together when it comes to the regional level. However I'm not sure taking a PDP state team and playing in a regular tournament in Vegas is equivalent to playing at an ODP sub regional event against other states. Are their plans to play against other PDP state teams?
ALso do you think this program will be free for long term? At some point you will have to pay for good coaching.
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| 20sDad |
December 23rd, 2012 03:48 GMT |
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Post: #52537
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Tell you what... you go with ODP and I'll stick with PDP and we can compare opportunities gained, and money spent, in a couple of years.
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