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JustaDad February 16th, 2013 00:58 GMT Print this post
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Well done this year friends. Great team. Great families. Great Coaching. Go Sierra Blitz!
Dave
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mtnlady February 16th, 2013 20:13 GMT Print this post
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Thanks Dave and good luck tomorrow! We look forward to getting some of our training 'mini-camps' in with your team this coming season. Two top level Gold teams helping each other get better. Should be fun and a great line-up of trainers on tap. Looking forward to it!
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TVSoccer February 17th, 2013 05:52 GMT Print this post
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So, what kind of numbers do your clubs get for the girls U12 tryouts?  We were told there are more than 80 girls signed up for tryouts tomorrow.  I am sure not that many will show up, as some probably have already joined other teams, but I am curious how that compares to other clubs.
TVS
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mtnlady February 17th, 2013 06:44 GMT Print this post
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TV I don't know about the u12g's as my focus is on the u13g's soon to be u14g's. I see the list of sign ups probably around Tuesday/Wednesday for my group.
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Norcaldad February 17th, 2013 09:56 GMT Print this post
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Is that common for coaches to see who (players) is coming in advance of tryouts? Or do you just get to see the numbers that have presigned up. Does this help you focus on new comers as opposed to your present players? (since you already know how your present players perform)
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mtnlady February 17th, 2013 16:23 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: Norcaldad, February 17th, 2013 09:56  GMT
Is that common for coaches to see who (players) is coming in advance of tryouts? Or do you just get to see the numbers that have presigned up. Does this help you focus on new comers as opposed to your present players? (since you already know how your present players perform)


Probably depends on the club however we try to encourage our sign-ups to be online. Saying that a goodly portion sign-up when they show up (slower process). I personnally like the idea of the players signing up online and the coaches getting a list as of mid week prior to tryouts for just that reason, I have an idea going into the tryouts who is new and can give extra focus to those players (and the players coming up from the B team). The policy of our club is that every single player is evaluated with as much detail as possible. The life blood of our teams comes through our tryouts and a lot of these kids we have little to no idea about as they are coming up out of the local rec teams. So we need to evaluate them as thoroughly as we can over the course of 3 tryouts.

For this reason, and others, I put together detail grading sheets covering multiple categories with every players name on it. So having as many of the players known ahead of time helps me put together the packet I hand out to the other coaches/trainers that are helping me grade out each candidate in our age group. The walk-ups are a pain because I need one of the ACs to run around, find out everyone who wasn't on our list. Get their name etc. and then hand write that onto everyones grading sheet - and get that all done and the kid properly graded out before the tryout is over (a big pain).
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Norcaldad February 17th, 2013 18:19 GMT Print this post
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I always wonder how clubs handle the presign ins as opposed to the walk ups. To bad no one has a scanner and printer at the sign up desk.
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mommystop February 18th, 2013 19:50 GMT Print this post
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We have heard similar numbers for San Juan U12 going U13 girls (100 plus). We have also heard the "usual" chatter (all the pdp players from surrounding clubs are coming to try out, phenoms playing up will be there, etc, etc) I have learned a few things over the years...

1. Never believe the "number" of girls signed up will actually be the number of girls at tryouts.
2. Never believe the phenom players are changing clubs until you SEE them kicking the ball at the morning of tryouts.
3. Always be prepared with a back up plan in case those numbers and rumors are true!  

I have seen some players come for a pre-tryout at the end of the season but I think largely it depends on the club and the player. With the two top teams at San Juan finishing 2nd and 4th in State Cup I would expect a much larger than usual turn out. There are going to be a lot of players who fully expect to make the "A" team looking for a new club or settlong for the "B" team in a scramble. If all those rumors hold true (that we have 100 people showing up to try out, 3 phenom players from other clubs, and the girls that currently play up will be coming to their age bracket) then there could be as few as 12 spots for that team. Its just too hard to evaluate that many players in a two day two hour tryout. If the coach hasn't seen the player in a game situation or talked to a coach who has I think it will be tough call to choose new players over current ones who have proven themselves. Either way, I'mglad I'm not the coach making those decisions! There are going to be some very disappointed kids this weekend.
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eastbaysoccer February 18th, 2013 20:36 GMT Print this post
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I think you will have to be a stand out (state level player) to make it over a good incumbent.  Loyalty and time invested into the player means something, right?  

MTN lady.....as a coach how would you approach this?  


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mtnlady February 18th, 2013 21:49 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: eastbaysoccer, February 18th, 2013 20:36  GMT
I think you will have to be a stand out (state level player) to make it over a good incumbent.  Loyalty and time invested into the player means something, right?  MTN lady.....as a coach how would you approach this?


Easy, take the best 15-16 players you see at the tryouts as long as they seem to have a) a strong work ethic, b) good character (team focus, enjoy the game etc.), c) supportive parents.

If two players are tied in ability then you go with the incumbant (unless they were are problem player and then you may be looking to drop them regardless) as you already know the player, their commitment, their team focus and the support they enjoy from their family.

It's always very pain to not pick up great kids with great families but we have a wonderful B team that we work hand-in-hand with (share some trainings, pull from their roster for games/tournaments etc.) so it makes the transition a little easier for these wonderful families and kids.

Saying that your team will never move forward unless you take the top 15-16 players available. That and if you always 'stick' with the incumbants - even if stronger players are trying out then in the end you will undermine your team as the incumbants begin to get a since of entitlement, work ethic and commitment begins to drop and they begin to see the team as more of a social extension and not a competitive team whose purposes is to develop (and have fun).  

Saying that I'm not a proponent of wholesale team changes either as it can disrupt the chemestry and continuity of the team. Every year and situation would have to be evaluated by the coach, assistants, trainer(s) etc. Sometimes wholesale changes are necessary as 2 or more teams were merging together. Sometimes that too is a necessity for the smaller teams/clubs to remain viable.
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