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bajjio January 31st, 2007 01:53 GMT Print this post
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We are not affiliated with a big club and it seems to be a requirement at this point for Super Y.  Things have been changing on this scene a lot lately and I'd like to hear some opinions about why it should be a serious consideration.
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Lurker January 31st, 2007 19:00 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: bajjio, January 31st, 2007 01:53  GMT
We are not affiliated with a big club and it seems to be a requirement at this point for Super Y.  Things have been changing on this scene a lot lately and I'd like to hear some opinions about why it should be a serious consideration.

Super Y-League is focused totally on soccer clubs and not on individual teams (no matter how good they might be). With Super Y, USL appears to be trying to establish a national system of "elite" soccer leagues for "elite" soccer clubs. the vote is still out on how successful this venture will actually be...

Specifically regarding your question, if you are an independent team (in a club/league that does not have a Super Y-League presence), then you will not be able to participate. If you join a club that is linked in to Super Y, then you will no longer be an independent team (in all senses of that word). I would suggest that the NorCal spring league would provide your team with a good alternative to Super Y, at least at the younger ages. It, like Super Y, is a spring league. It also provides a wider scope of teams to play (from all over NorCal, not just your local district).  

There appears to be a change taking place with regard to how youth soccer is structured (locally and nation-wide).  More and more, the elite players and teams are migrating to the larger clubs. For these clubs, the extra administrative headaches of Super Y make sense. They want to compete on the national stage (not just as teams, but as clubs). There is a lot of money and prestige (and egos) involved.
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soccer doctor January 31st, 2007 19:18 GMT Print this post
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I recently read somewhere that Nor Cal and Super Y were in talks about the Nor Cal spring league becoming a relegation back-up to Super Y.  While this is an interesting idea as Lurker pointed out Super Y is a club league.  Each club must meet certain minimal standards to stay part of the league.  I like the idea of relegation/promotion as it would allow the stronger teams from non-Super Y clubs to compete while relegating the weaker Super Y club teams to a more appropriate level.  This would strengthen Super Y to the elite status it desires.  The draw back is that Super Y is not cheap and the cost may be prohibitive for a club with only one team competing.
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bajjio January 31st, 2007 22:49 GMT Print this post
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So, a team can't negotiate a membership with a club that is SY certified and remain independant?
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Soccer Friend January 31st, 2007 23:02 GMT Print this post
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bajjio

Sure a team can negotiate a membership assuming the club does not have a team in your age group or you could approach the club to coach the Y league team and hold a tryout and form a team for Y League or you can have the players who want to particiapte in Y league tryout for a roster spot on a Y Leage team and play for their CYSA team.
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Flash January 31st, 2007 23:18 GMT Print this post
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At this time I believe that only San Juan and River City/CASA Boca Jr's are affiliated with Super Y in our immediate area. I don't think that San Juan does this but I know that CASA has, in the past, if they do not have a team in a certain age group, (which isn't very often) fill in with a team outside of the club so that the "club" has all age divisions covered.

If they hadn't already, the team would have to register US Club in addition to CYSA. Then they would play Super Y under Boca but still be part of their own club for CYSA tournaments and league. Now the Super Y season can run April to December or later if you have to make up games. Gets kinda hard when you start running into CYSA league and such in the fall. If you miss or forfiet games Super Y has many hefty fines built into the rules. But to answer your question, it is possible.
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Lurker January 31st, 2007 23:19 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: bajjio, January 31st, 2007 22:49  GMT
So, a team can't negotiate a membership with a club that is SY certified and remain independent?

Teams have negotiated to play Super Y for other clubs in the past. Two that come to mind are girls teams. One switched completely over (registering for CYSA-N also) and one only played Super Y. With US Club registration, there is a lot of flexibility. It all depends on the needs of the clubs involved and the personal relationship between coaches, coaching directors, etc. I think Soccer Friend laid the options out pretty well.
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Soccernut February 01st, 2007 02:01 GMT Print this post
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The real question is why would you pay a $1000 bucks for crummy league?  Oops I forgot their iisway too much administrative non-sense?
Fines?  

It is the WHY? league afterall......
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bajjio February 01st, 2007 03:25 GMT Print this post
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But, that's my question. Is the competition better? Are our kids going to be better off playing more tournaments and ODP vs Y.  I suppose if I lived in the east bay where the league competition is better, I wouldn't care.
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Soccer Friend February 01st, 2007 04:46 GMT Print this post
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Having had multiple kids in Y at various age groups the competition is worth the fees.  Plus Y League will continue to improve so get in now while there is still room.
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