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just_watching_my_daughter - March 12th, 2009 17:34 GMT


Informed by my coach that he submitted my duaghter's name to be included in the Region 6 PDP training.  Unfortunately there isn't that much information out there on Norcal's website and I was hoping someone can share information as to what happens at this training session and their experience.  Also, is this in fact training or a tryout??  Thanks!!
Mustang Dad - March 12th, 2009 17:59 GMT
Edited by Mustang Dad on March 12th, 2009 18:00 GMT

PDP is a great idea.  The Northern California version run by NorCalPremier has been very disorganized at both the district and state level (to say the least!).  Unless they've gotten their act together, expect last minute notification of events (like Friday night for Saturday morning...), quality training and evaluation but in a very scattered and disorganized environment and a good deal of frustration.

But...if your dd gets selected to attend the iD2 event at home depot center it makes it all worth it!  That week is a fabulous experience.
just_watching_my_daughter - March 12th, 2009 19:10 GMT


Thanks MD for the info.  Do you know if the 'training' session is a tryout/evaluation that then leads to further training?
Mustang Dad - March 12th, 2009 19:44 GMT




------ QUOTE from  just_watching_my_daughter, March 12th, 2009 19:10  GMT ------
Thanks MD for the info.  Do you know if the 'training' session is a tryout/evaluation that then leads to further training?
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Yes it is. Everything they do is an evaluation opportunity.
11RoCks - December 14th, 2010 06:55 GMT


There is no charge to attend...so far.
eastbaysoccer - September 07th, 2011 20:19 GMT


Our coach did not recommend anyone for PDP this year.  Three of our players were on the team last year (98-99 and one on 99-00) and it was likely 2-3 more would have made it this year for 99-00.  Why deny the kids an opportunity to tryout? Can anybody explain why?
futballinator - September 07th, 2011 21:31 GMT


When are recommendations made?  I thought they happened later in the season?
#9ismykindofkid - September 08th, 2011 05:23 GMT


It all comes down to whether or not your dd's coach believes in the program or not.  In Region 5, only four or five clubs participate in PDP selection. Also, they do not have a central location for trainings so more players can participate.

Recommendations are made mostly in the spring but in our region it has been all year.  We had new girls come out tonight to be evaluated.
20sDad - September 08th, 2011 16:22 GMT




------ QUOTE from  eastbaysoccer, September 07th, 2011 20:19  GMT ------
Our coach did not recommend anyone for PDP this year.  Three of our players were on the team last year (98-99 and one on 99-00) and it was likely 2-3 more would have made it this year for 99-00.  Why deny the kids an opportunity to tryout? Can anybody explain why?
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Did you ask your coach?

eastbaysoccer - September 08th, 2011 18:29 GMT




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------ QUOTE from  eastbaysoccer, September 07th, 2011 20:19  GMT ------
Our coach did not recommend anyone for PDP this year.  Three of our players were on the team last year (98-99 and one on 99-00) and it was likely 2-3 more would have made it this year for 99-00.  Why deny the kids an opportunity to tryout? Can anybody explain why?
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Did you ask your coach?


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Try outs are already complete and the team chosen.   
20sDad - September 08th, 2011 18:38 GMT




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------ QUOTE from  20sDad, September 08th, 2011 16:22  GMT ------


------ QUOTE from  eastbaysoccer, September 07th, 2011 20:19  GMT ------
Our coach did not recommend anyone for PDP this year.  Three of our players were on the team last year (98-99 and one on 99-00) and it was likely 2-3 more would have made it this year for 99-00.  Why deny the kids an opportunity to tryout? Can anybody explain why?
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Did you ask your coach?


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Try outs are already complete and the team chosen.   
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I mean did you ask your coach why no players were recomended?

Also, PDP will evaluate players on an individual basis throughout the season.
20sDad - September 08th, 2011 18:40 GMT
Edited by 20sDad on September 08th, 2011 18:42 GMT



------ QUOTE from  #9ismykindofkid, September 08th, 2011 05:23  GMT ------
It all comes down to whether or not your dd's coach believes in the program or not.  In Region 5, only four or five clubs participate in PDP selection. Also, they do not have a central location for trainings so more players can participate.

Recommendations are made mostly in the spring but in our region it has been all year.  We had new girls come out tonight to be evaluated.
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Santa Rosa is actually pretty central for the majority of players.  It's not very convenient for the Novato kids but I think they (coaching staff) run the risk of a significant drop in participation should the location be moved further south.  Ideally, they would hold the girls/boys sessions on separate days so training could start later in the evening for those commuting.
#9ismykindofkid - September 08th, 2011 20:47 GMT


Agreed that separate training days would be better.
I think that Mill Valley, Central Marin, and Northbay Elite would participate more if the location was more central in regards to them.  They would be able to offer a few players from each club to strengthen the team.

Not complaining about the commute, only took thirty minutes!
20sDad - September 08th, 2011 21:36 GMT
Edited by 20sDad on September 08th, 2011 21:42 GMT



------ QUOTE from  #9ismykindofkid, September 08th, 2011 20:47  GMT ------
Agreed that separate training days would be better.
I think that Mill Valley, Central Marin, and Northbay Elite would participate more if the location was more central in regards to them.  They would be able to offer a few players from each club to strengthen the team.

Not complaining about the commute, only took thirty minutes!

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4pm is pretty early to get kids there on a week day, even if you're local.

Regarding moving locations... they might pick up a couple of players from the above mentioned clubs, but it would probably be at the expense of the Santa Rosa players, who I doubt are interested in commuting very far. 
#9ismykindofkid - September 10th, 2011 03:33 GMT


Okay this is just becoming about our region.

Back to the discussion at hand,  PDP is a good opportunity for players to play with the best in their region.  If your coach is not on board, then you need to ask why?

It has been a wonderful experience so far for my daughter. 
20sDad - October 24th, 2011 22:29 GMT


Any thoughts on yesterday's playdate in Davis?
#9ismykindofkid - October 25th, 2011 03:50 GMT


Region 5 got their act together for sure...
Making cuts and then practicing as a team the month before surely helped.

Didn't watch the other games.  Thoughts on the other regional teams?

Again, this is a great program for those clubs that choose to use it.
spHerE - November 06th, 2011 06:18 GMT




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Any thoughts on yesterday's playdate in Davis?
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I had to work, but my dd had a blast! 

How was it? I saw the video..wasn't too impressed, but it wasn't shot very well either.
20sDad - November 07th, 2011 05:43 GMT




------ QUOTE from  spHerE, November 06th, 2011 06:18  GMT ------


------ QUOTE from  20sDad, October 24th, 2011 22:29  GMT ------
Any thoughts on yesterday's playdate in Davis?
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I had to work, but my dd had a blast! 

How was it? I saw the video..wasn't too impressed, but it wasn't shot very well either.
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Meh.

A couple of players stood out but the overall talent seemed down from earlier in the year.  I'm not sure if players have aged out or if they're just onto bigger and better things. 

D2 was the most organized of the regions... I'm guessing many of the players share coaching bloodlines, making it easier to incorporate into a funtional team.  At any rate, it's fun to watch them play together.

Agreed regarding the video... especially since region 5 apparently didn't even merit a cameo. 
iam737 - February 23rd, 2012 20:54 GMT


NorCal PDP and US Club ID2 are now officially recognized as Olympic Development Programs (ODP).
spHerE - March 02nd, 2012 00:24 GMT


What does that mean for CY ODP?

Does anyone know the plan for the 98 pdp state pool? Just practice once a month and that's it? Will they have playdates or put together a team to go play in a tourney?
Hooked002 - March 02nd, 2012 02:29 GMT
Edited by Hooked002 on March 02nd, 2012 02:32 GMT



------ QUOTE from  spHerE, March 02nd, 2012 00:24  GMT ------
What does that mean for CY ODP?
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While the 55 State Associations in USYSA did not have the only ODPs sanctioned by the US Olympic Committee through USSF (e.g., USL's Super Y League has an ODP program), this means that there will be more programs officially sanctioned as ODPs.  This may be particularly helpful for players that need an exemption from CIF to participate in these events during their HS season because CIF generally only defers to official ODP events.  For example, ECNL wanted to conduct a regional PDP in SoCal for SoCal ECNL players (and wanted to play 11v11 games) and wanted to do it right in the middle of the HS season.  That event had to be rescheduled at the last minute.  Now, such an event should be okay.  It will be interesting to see what CIF does, though, if there are a multitude of requests made to recognize such events during HS season.   
spHerE - March 21st, 2012 16:22 GMT


  thanks
Barcafan - November 07th, 2012 01:48 GMT




------ QUOTE from  iam737, February 23rd, 2012 20:54  GMT ------
NorCal PDP and US Club ID2 are now officially recognized as Olympic Development Programs (ODP).
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Does anyone have a source to confirm this?  I'm trying to determine if next month's ID2 camp in Arizona is a CIF sanctioned 'ODP' event.  Any help is appreciated.
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