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lunita January 24th, 2013 14:06 GMT Print this post
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In the strictest sense, FIFA's laws of the game say that the field needs to be 100-130 yards long and 50-100 yards wide (and the length has to be greater than the width... no square 100x100 yard fields.  LOL.) There's a huge range in "acceptable", and I think that is just part of the game.  On the other hand, chosing "neutral" fields should take this into account. Having a large part of the games on a field with unusual dimensions is the kind of thing that can give teams real home-team advantages and really skew the results of the whole cup one way or another.  


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mtnlady January 24th, 2013 19:54 GMT Print this post
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This message was edited by mtnlady on January 24th, 2013 20:00 GMT

Woodland has a good team but I don't think they will be in the top 8 and thus "skew the results" with a home field advantage I don't think will come into play.  

You could make the same argument of the games were being held on a huge field as it would favor teams that like to hit a ton of long balls and out run everyone too it. Big fields tend to 'reward' athletiscm over skills.  

If anything you would want to go to the smaller field as it puts skills at a premium (which is what we are supposed to be promoting here correct??). On that note the new Norcal playing format rules which will come into play in a year or so are also recommending smaller fields of 90x50 to 100x60 for the U13 - U14 age group. I believe the Woodland fields meet these dimensions?


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411 from 408 January 24th, 2013 20:18 GMT Print this post
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Would you rather play Barcelona on a bigger or smaller field?  Teams that dominate possession enjoy playing on a bigger field. Allows them to spread their opponent out.  
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mtnlady January 24th, 2013 21:26 GMT Print this post
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This message was edited by mtnlady on January 24th, 2013 21:32 GMT

It's challenging to retain possession on a smaller field due to the limited time/space the field provides. So I would have to disagree, a smaller field would favor a team like Barca for two important reasons. First is that their team has the skill and off ball movement talent to successfully move away from pressure and retain possesion on such a field.

Second Barca plays suffacating defense - another key component to the game that needs to be taught. It would be a rare team that could handle a small field against a defense like Barca's.

So Barca is favored on a small field for two key reasons. Their ability to retain possession under very tight time/space limitations and second their ability to apply those same limitations onto others - their defense is outstanding.

Come on guys, you know dog gone well that big fields favor teams that like to play long ball and out run their opponents. You are fighting for the very thing that we try to NOT play at this level - no matter how you like to try and dress it up. Big fields encourage boot ball. There is a reason Norcal is moving toward a smaller field format.
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Toneib January 24th, 2013 22:12 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: mtnlady, January 24th, 2013 21:26  GMT
Come on guys, you know dog gone well that big fields favor teams that like to play long ball and out run their opponents. You are fighting for the very thing that we try to NOT play at this level - no matter how you like to try and dress it up. Big fields encourage boot ball. There is a reason Norcal is moving toward a smaller field format.


This might be true for the lower level teams of this age group, but I believe most of the top 10 teams at U13 play a possession-style game.
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20sDad January 24th, 2013 22:40 GMT Print this post
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How to teams play Bara defensively?  They pack the defensive 3rd and concede possession for the rest of the field (Mourinho did it pretty effectively with Inter a couple years ago).  In other words, they reduce the space they are defending.  Like I said earlier, smaller field dimensions might not necessarily hurt possession orientated teams, but it negates some of their advantage by reducing the space to defend while simultaneously allowing the opponent to sacrifice less offense than they would on a larger field by way of long distance shots.  The fact that one team was literally taking shots from kickoff last year is all you need to know about that.  

A side note about the proposed reduced field dimensions… countries that implement that training strategy usually do so with less players of the field.  They don’t pack the same amount of players into a smaller space.  The idea is that less players will equal more touches per player.

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20sDad January 24th, 2013 22:43 GMT Print this post
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Another point, "boom ball' is a coaching issue... not a field issue.
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eastbaysoccer January 25th, 2013 04:23 GMT Print this post
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Small fields allow for big physical teams to  bunch up and pummel the smaller skilled players hence giving the larger more physical teams an advantage.  Hopefully the refs will not allow this.  

Smaller fields make a defensive team even harder to score on.

Games of interest on a small field:

Palo Alto vs. Manteca should be interesting.  A good possession team vs. a very good defensive team.  Palo Alto will pack it in, keep the game close and attempt to counter late.  

any other interesting games on a small field?


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mtnlady January 25th, 2013 17:26 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: 20sDad, January 24th, 2013 22:43  GMT
Another point, "boom ball' is a coaching issue... not a field issue.


Wrong, you can coach players all day long on possession but they figure out pretty quick that big field, we're faster than they other team and off the ball goes. Field size can directly affect playing style regardless of what coaches are stressing in practice sessions. The sad part is that most parents are too focused on winning and are concerned that the smaller field may take away some advantage their team has and give up a 'lucky shot'. When in fact the smaller field puts a premium on first touch, dribbling, off ball movement (less space to utilize so you need to be better at moving and finding that space), possession etc.

If your team struggles in these areas then yes you will have trouble against good defenses on the smaller field. If your team relys on long ball tactics and the big 'booming' pass across the field as your method of moving the ball away from pressure then yes your team will lose some of it's advantage on the smaller field.

As I said, there is a reason why Norcal is mandating the use of smaller fields for the u12-u14 age group in the near future.


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eastbaysoccer January 25th, 2013 17:31 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: 20sDad, January 24th, 2013 22:43  GMT
Another point, "boom ball' is a coaching issue... not a field issue.


........and a parent issue. How many times how you seen a fullback boot  the ball down the field and hear the parents scream, " good job".
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