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drock1331 January 23rd, 2013 17:00 GMT Print this post
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I'll agree with most of this, although I'd probably change "boot ball" to "bunch ball." The more physical team will win out there.

If by boot ball you mean just sending long balls up the pitch, a decent goalie should gobble those up pretty easily.


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Quoted from: mtnlady, January 23rd, 2013 15:25  GMT
It will help teams with good possession, first touch, dribbling ability etc. Keepers with a long punt become a weapon. It will hamper teams that rely on long ball and speed to create scoring chances. Downside is that large teams that like to pound people it will be harder for the little teams to maneuver away from the demolition derby.


IMO, it completely hinders teams that use the full scope of the pitch for their style of play. And it is those teams who historically have good possession, 1st touch, etc. that will suffer from lack of space. So I have to disagree with your statement.

The only teams it helps are those who play boot ball. And yes, those teams still exist at U13.

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mtnlady January 23rd, 2013 18:43 GMT Print this post
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This message was edited by mtnlady on January 23rd, 2013 18:44 GMT

Not if your field is quite large it leaves quite a bit of space between your back line and your keeper. If the opposing team has very fast forwards your risk easy goals if your keeper gets too adventurious coming far out of their box to try and outrace speedy forwards to the ball.
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drock1331 January 23rd, 2013 18:51 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: mtnlady, January 23rd, 2013 18:43  GMT
Not if your field is quite large it leaves quite a bit of space between your back line and your keeper. If the opposing team has very fast forwards your risk easy goals if your keeper gets too adventurious coming far out of their box to try and outrace speedy forwards to the ball.


But that's the thing, is the Woodland field large?
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Toneib January 23rd, 2013 21:07 GMT Print this post
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Quoted from: drock1331, January 23rd, 2013 18:51  GMT

Quoted from: mtnlady, January 23rd, 2013 18:43  GMT
Not if your field is quite large it leaves quite a bit of space between your back line and your keeper. If the opposing team has very fast forwards your risk easy goals if your keeper gets too adventurious coming far out of their box to try and outrace speedy forwards to the ball.


But that's the thing, is the Woodland field large?


NO, the fields in Woodland are pathetically small!
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mtnlady January 23rd, 2013 22:23 GMT Print this post
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Thus my statement - that the smaller fields disfavor teams that like to 'send it long' and out run the other teams to the ball. The smaller fields favor teams that play more for possession, have quality first touches and dribbling ability.  

The downside is that bigger more physical players can also control a smaller field more as the smaller players have less real estate to manuver away from the bigger players.

Bottom line - small fields can help and hurt a smaller more skilled team that plays a possession style of game.  

Small fields diffenetly hurt teams that play long ball and try to out run players to the ball. But that's not the style of play we want to be promoting at the youngers is it?
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The shorter fields are advantageous to teams that aren’t creative offensively as it allows them to pack the defense and take shots from distance that would have no chance on a larger field.  
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mtnlady January 24th, 2013 00:39 GMT Print this post
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That's a good point 20s. I would think the smaller field would be very helpful for the teams with very good off ball movement (creative) as the uncreative teams wouldn't be able to do much with the space they were given?
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I don't think it hurts those teams as much as neutralizes that advantage in the fashion I mentioned above.  On a larger field, teams that pack the defensive 3rd have to sacrifice their attack in doing so.  Not so much on these fields.
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drock1331 January 24th, 2013 02:52 GMT Print this post
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So do the three Woodland fields at least meet the minimum standards? We scrimmaged WSC Arsenal there a couple months ago on one of the main fields (ie, not a baseball field)
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Toneib January 24th, 2013 06:00 GMT Print this post
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This message was edited by Toneib on January 24th, 2013 17:07 GMT


Quoted from: 20sDad, January 23rd, 2013 23:44  GMT
The shorter fields are advantageous to teams that aren’t creative offensively as it allows them to pack the defense and take shots from distance that would have no chance on a larger field.  


Quoted from: mtnlady, January 24th, 2013 00:39  GMT
That's a good point 20s. I would think the smaller field would be very helpful for the teams with very good off ball movement (creative) as the uncreative teams wouldn't be able to do much with the space they were given?


I might be mistaken, but isn't 20sDad making a completely different point than mtnlady?!  20sDad: shorter fields better for non-creative and defensive minded teams. mtnlady: smaller fields better for technical teams to create space. Or am I just completely missing the point?!

Either way, the fields at Woodland are way too small to allow the top teams in NorCal play, and execute, the beautiful game!
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