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PREMIER02G - October 19th, 2012 23:22 GMT


What do you think about this age group?
futballinator - October 20th, 2012 01:02 GMT


You  mean 01-02? 
Can you be more specific?

Ajax 02 Elite has best striker
Stars 02 has best overall team and will prove that by pulling in
              any ringer they can in order to maintain  that.  See team above
Lots of up and coming teams...
If this is the age group you mean and were talking girls...happy to have a fun back and forth
PREMIER02G - October 21st, 2012 06:31 GMT


Yes 01/02..I agree with both teams....this is a very strong age group with some quality soccer.
Socop - October 25th, 2012 16:01 GMT


To be fair to the USA Stars.  They are clearly the top U11G team in Nor Cal.  I don't think that can be disputed.  They tend to use Guest Players when they travel down south to play in the big events.  This is not unheard of throughout the many clubs.  The Stars have absolutely no reason to "stack" their team when playing U11G Nor Cal teams.
lunita - October 25th, 2012 17:48 GMT


Do the USA Stars have any plans to get into a league?  Is it sustainable to have a team without a league to play in? 
eastbaysoccer - October 25th, 2012 18:43 GMT


Without a league I think they kids leave as the get older.  No question that guy is a great coach.  There's money to be made to make players better. 
soccerstar14 - October 25th, 2012 20:16 GMT


(quoting all the comments above)
The USA Stars sound like the old Rocklin, a.k.a., Placer, er, Cal Blues Strikers.
mtnlady - October 25th, 2012 20:47 GMT


I don't think the Strikers ever didn't play in a league did they?
futballinator - October 25th, 2012 21:16 GMT


"To be fair to the USA Stars.  They are clearly the top U11G team in Nor Cal.  I don't think that can be disputed.  They tend to use Guest Players when they travel down south to play in the big events.  This is not unheard of throughout the many clubs.  The Stars have absolutely no reason to "stack" their team when playing U11G Nor Cal"

Historically they have been the best team.  Have both seen and played against them in multiple tournaments this year including SoCal blues.  Have yet to see them without that very talented  striker from Ajax except when they played a tight 2-1 game against Ajax (which the stars won--great game). Stars lost some EDUSA talent this year, not the top talent, but solid players and athletes.  So I think it will be very interesting NEXT year to see if the stars are able to maintain and/or grow their depth. 

PREMIER02G - October 25th, 2012 23:40 GMT


I work with the Ajax Premier team (b team) and with stars not in Nor Cal state cup it looks as if the our Elite team has a shot at first place.But you never know.As for their striker,what a humble great soccer player.
futballinator - October 25th, 2012 23:48 GMT


That's one great Ajax premier team as well.  Probably the best "b" team around.  Good luck in the second round. 
PREMIER02G - October 26th, 2012 00:05 GMT


Thanks,we have a tough line up in front of us....I really hope my little girl  gets a little taller .I think she might be the shortest forward at this age group( #99 Peanut ) .11 v 11 will be the equalizer i hope.lol
soccerstar14 - October 26th, 2012 18:01 GMT




------ QUOTE from  mtnlady, October 25th, 2012 20:47  GMT ------
I don't think the Strikers ever didn't play in a league did they?
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The Strikers played CYSA select as long as they could before they were forced to move up to class 1/div 1 and join a "club." (and somehow played both CYSA AND NorCal.

futballinator - October 27th, 2012 03:34 GMT


Here's the round 2 brackets....thoughts?  I've added mine

ACC Mavericks
FCA Lightning
Pleasanton Rage Orange--Probably wins bracket but ties either ACC or FCA
SCA 02


MVLA Blue
Mustang Legends--Wins without much difficulty, but don't know much about MVLA
SRU Waves
San Ramon Azuri

Ajax Elite---wins "bracket of death," Davis comes in 2nd
Cal Oddyssey
Davis Stampede
Placer Red



Loomis--sleeper team, watch out, might take bracket.  Good even competition here.
Mustang Blast
Penn Oddyssey
Sac United Red--maybe.  Loomis tough team, don't know much about Pen Odd

BOCA Silver
Diablo
FCEG Navy--takes bracket easily unless Refs allow rough play, rest of bracket very competitive for 2nd
UC Premier TOPS


Ajax Premier--tough road, might not take bracket.  Might come down to tie breakers.  Another "bracket of death"
Force 01 Blue
Livermore Maroon
Los Gatos Black    ----has advantage if physical style unchecked by officials.


Burlingame
Gryphons
SJSC--sleeper team on the rise, relatively weak bracket.  Takes it with 2 wins and 1 tie.
Woodland


Bay Oaks Gold
MVLA Black
Mustang Xplosion
SRU Earthquakes---wins easily. 


Socop - October 27th, 2012 15:59 GMT


Great draw for Loomis.  They win that division going away. 

No problem at all for Ajax Elite.  Not a bracket of death for them.  I have seen Ajax play Davis.  Not even close.

Mustang Legends, easy draw as well.

Ha Ha, SRU?  The Soccer Gods were smiling on your draw!

EG Navy should not have a problem as long as they don't make mistakes in the back.

Sure would like to see the USA Stars in the mix here.  I hope they find a way in next year.

futballinator - October 27th, 2012 22:17 GMT




------ QUOTE from  Socop, October 27th, 2012 15:59  GMT ------
Great draw for Loomis.  They win that division going away. 

No problem at all for Ajax Elite.  Not a bracket of death for them.  I have seen Ajax play Davis.  Not even close.




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Cal Cup: (most recent Davis/Ajax matchup 8v8)

Ajax 6, Sporting 0
Ajax 5, SJCJ Blue 0
Ajax 2, Davis 0
Ajax 2, FC EG 1
Ajax 6, SRosa 1

Mustang:

Ajax 5, Placer 0
Ajax 10, Los Gatos Black 0
Ajax 6, Benfica 0
Ajax 2, FCEG 0
Ajax 4, Mustang Legends 2
Ajax 2, Santa Rosa 1

Magic Cup

8/26/2012

Ajax 2, SR 1--twice
Ajax 3, Cal Cougars 1
Ajax 3, Mustang 1


Looks like Davis has done about as well as many other top teams, and significantly better than most.  Yes, Ajax should win the bracket, but not without a fight....maybe better to state bracket of death for everyone else
futballinator - October 27th, 2012 22:31 GMT


The Stars should get back into Norcal Premier next year, right....just like FC EG did their second year?  Agreed, it just isn't the same without them.
PREMIER02G - October 30th, 2012 21:18 GMT


We try to challenge our girls every chance we can.We normally just play Elite teams or play  U 12 .I would like  to see them finish in the top 8 this year ,we  finished 11th in the red last year.With all that said as long as they keep it simple and have a love for the game they should have good results.I think most of us forget they are  little girls  just doing what they love.  
PREMIER02G - October 30th, 2012 22:03 GMT


ACC Mavericks ...bump and run
FCA Lightning 
Pleasanton Rage Orange--Probably wins bracket but ties either ACC or FCA ..agreed
SCA 02  up and coming team ..watch for them past scores do not reflect the direction of this team


MVLA Blue 
Mustang Legends--Wins without much difficulty, but don't know much about MVLA ..agreed
SRU Waves ...not the same team they used to be..their u 10's are great
San Ramon Azuri ..good team

Ajax Elite--- forward needs to stay healthy..very strong and big girls should win ..

Cal Oddyssey 
Davis Stampede ..  plays to the level of the other team
Placer Red 



Loomis--Hi pressure soccer good group of girls- agreed sleeper 
Mustang Blast 
Penn Oddyssey 
Sac United Red-- depends on what team shows up   

BOCA  -Really big forward..bump and run style of play
Diablo  -very aggresive team should do well
FCEG Navy--takes bracket  .. agreed
UC Premier TOPS - bump and run ball..


Ajax Premier--  Very small team with good ball movement..size is the factor .... 
Force 01 Blue ..strong
Livermore Maroon ...i watched the Ajax Elite team run all over them.so i am not sure
Los Gatos Black    ----  lost 7-4 to Ajax's B team.10-0 to the A team.Rough play helps their chances

Burlingame ..fun team
Gryphons ..on the fence with them .they dont quit
SJSC--sleeper team on the rise, relatively weak bracket.  Takes it with 2 wins and 1 tie. 
Woodland 


Bay Oaks Gold 
MVLA Black ..
Mustang Xplosion 
SRU Earthquakes---wins easily.  agreed 


NorcalSoccerFan - November 01st, 2012 18:42 GMT




------ QUOTE from  PREMIER02G, October 30th, 2012 22:03  GMT ------
ACC Mavericks ...bump and run can be a tough team--depends on which team shows up
FCA Lightning 
Pleasanton Rage Orange--Probably wins bracket but ties either ACC or FCA ..agreed  Maybe not.  May be losing some footing, based on league results. Injuries maybe?
SCA 02  up and coming team ..watch for them past scores do not reflect the direction of this team


MVLA Blue Lost to Mustang legends and Loomis in Placer last weekend
Mustang Legends--Wins without much difficulty, but don't know much about MVLA ..agreed  Could be them v. Ajax in final
SRU Waves ...not the same team they used to be..their u 10's are great
San Ramon Azuri ..good team but inconsistent

Ajax Elite--- forward needs to stay healthy..very strong and big girls should win .. just a great all around team, not so sure about the coach
Cal Oddyssey 
Davis Stampede ..  plays to the level of the other team
Placer Red 



Loomis--Hi pressure soccer good group of girls- agreed sleeper agreed
Mustang Blast could be another sleeper
Penn Oddyssey 
Sac United Red-- depends on what team shows up   

BOCA  -Really big forward..bump and run style of play this is Boca's 2nd team.  1st team did not make top 32
Diablo  -very aggresive team should do well
FCEG Navy--takes bracket  .. agreed
UC Premier TOPS - bump and run ball. but a lot of success in tournaments, NorCal and league play

Ajax Premier--  Very small team with good ball movement..size is the factor .... 
Force 01 Blue ..strong (sometimes; not consistent)
Livermore Maroon ...i watched the Ajax Elite team run all over them.so i am not sure playing down in league and recently lost to Mustang's 3rd team
Los Gatos Black    ----  lost 7-4 to Ajax's B team.10-0 to the A team.
Rough play helps their chances

Burlingame ..fun team
Gryphons ..on the fence with them .they dont quit
SJSC--sleeper team on the rise, relatively weak bracket.  Takes it with 2 wins and 1 tie. 
Woodland 


Bay Oaks Gold  solid team but a little surprised they are no. 1 team in this bracket
MVLA Black .. MVLA 2nd team, but solid
Mustang Xplosion Mustang 3rd team.  Uknown.
SRU Earthquakes---wins easily.  agreed agreed



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lunita - November 01st, 2012 19:51 GMT




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------ QUOTE from  PREMIER02G, October 30th, 2012 22:03  GMT ------
 

BOCA  -Really big forward..bump and run style of play this is Boca's 2nd team.  1st team did not make top 32
Diablo  -very aggresive team should do well
FCEG Navy--takes bracket  .. agreed
UC Premier TOPS - bump and run ball. but a lot of success in tournaments, NorCal and league play


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RE: Boca.  This is the Boca Land Park Silver "bravehearts" team.  Not really second obviously, just different.  It's parent coached, I believe.  Not to be confused with Boca "proper" (coached by boca staff) Boca Natomas Silver or Boca Sacramento Silver
SSR - November 01st, 2012 21:15 GMT




------ QUOTE from  PREMIER02G, October 30th, 2012 21:18  GMT ------
  We try to challenge our girls every chance we can.We normally just play Elite teams or play  U 12 .I would like  to see them finish in the top 8 this year ,we  finished 11th in the red last year.With all that said as long as they keep it simple and have a love for the game they should have good results.I think most of us forget they are  little girls  just doing what they love.  
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  Ajax Premier is playing Gold in Nor Cal, if you want a challenge why are you not in Premier. I noticed your team played in gold for Cal Cup as well, doesnt seem like a much of a challenge.
SSR - November 01st, 2012 21:21 GMT




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------ QUOTE from  PREMIER02G, October 30th, 2012 22:03  GMT ------
 

BOCA  -Really big forward..bump and run style of play this is Boca's 2nd team.  1st team did not make top 32
Diablo  -very aggresive team should do well
FCEG Navy--takes bracket  .. agreed
UC Premier TOPS - bump and run ball. but a lot of success in tournaments, NorCal and league play


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RE: Boca.  This is the Boca Land Park Silver "bravehearts" team.  Not really second obviously, just different.  It's parent coached, I believe.  Not to be confused with Boca "proper" (coached by boca staff) Boca Natomas Silver or Boca Sacramento Silver
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Boca Bravehearts, formally SSA Bravehearts, now are known as Boca Silver, yes parent coached but have been together for a few years, long balls to "Flash", pretty good goalie and defender. 

UC Tops was able to beat Mustang Legends at their tournament, not sure if guest players were involved? I do know they made the brackets in their favor to get to the final.
PREMIER02G - November 01st, 2012 23:00 GMT


SSR
We fight to change every tourney .If our Elte team plays in the same tourney we get bumped down,In fall league we asked to be moved up but the powers that be said no.Dont get me wrong if it sounds like i am bragging ,i came off wrong.We play a very simple game,most of our players are very small but have a lot of heart.
iam737 - November 02nd, 2012 18:02 GMT


Boca Silver - pretty much one player carries the team. Typical boot ball up to her on the right side and she does the rest. Very fast and strong player.  Player is more dangerous than Placer Red striker.
mtnlady - November 02nd, 2012 18:38 GMT
Edited by mtnlady on November 02nd, 2012 18:41 GMT



------ QUOTE from  iam737, November 02nd, 2012 18:02  GMT ------
Boca Silver - pretty much one player carries the team. Typical boot ball up to her on the right side and she does the rest. Very fast and strong player.  Player is more dangerous than Placer Red striker.
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No comment of if this team plays "boot ball" or not however I find it amusing that everyone always 'accuses' everyone else of playing 'boot ball' while their team / club focuses on the 'soccer fundamentals', passing and footskills. I think the plain truth of the matter is that the vast majority of the teams out there are working like heck to teach strong skills and a passing game however when faced with a very challenging game and a totally jammed up midfield most teams will try the through ball / longer clearances route. That and through balls and longer clearances can be important tools to stretch the game and provide more space for the players (especially the mids) to get the passing game going as well.
iam737 - November 02nd, 2012 19:53 GMT




------ QUOTE from  mtnlady, November 02nd, 2012 18:38  GMT ------


------ QUOTE from  iam737, November 02nd, 2012 18:02  GMT ------
Boca Silver - pretty much one player carries the team. Typical boot ball up to her on the right side and she does the rest. Very fast and strong player.  Player is more dangerous than Placer Red striker.
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No comment of if this team plays "boot ball" or not however I find it amusing that everyone always 'accuses' everyone else of playing 'boot ball' while their team / club focuses on the 'soccer fundamentals', passing and footskills. I think the plain truth of the matter is that the vast majority of the teams out there are working like heck to teach strong skills and a passing game however when faced with a very challenging game and a totally jammed up midfield most teams will try the through ball / longer clearances route. That and through balls and longer clearances can be important tools to stretch the game and provide more space for the players (especially the mids) to get the passing game going as well.
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Of course, you point out sound soccer match strategies, anyone that knows soccer would agree with your statement(s). I was just pointing out that the team has such a player. Instead of saying "typical" I should have said that the team has a player, which tends to dictate their style of play. If she gets 90% of the goals, you wanna get her the ball . . . 

The big test will be the U12 transition where team tactics and (stronger) player fundamentals make up the structure relating to building the successful teams.

Winning is a double-edged sword . . .
PREMIER02G - November 02nd, 2012 21:07 GMT


Well said....    What i have seen ,(and forgive me if i am wrong) coaches will have is defenders smash the ball forward and in most cases has a fast striker to get the job done.They then have only one hope and that is ,will my forward out run the other teams defenders.11 v 11 changes the game.
iam737 - November 02nd, 2012 21:53 GMT




------ QUOTE from  PREMIER02G, November 02nd, 2012 21:07  GMT ------
Well said....    What i have seen ,(and forgive me if i am wrong) coaches will have is defenders smash the ball forward and in most cases has a fast striker to get the job done.They then have only one hope and that is ,will my forward out run the other teams defenders.11 v 11 changes the game. 
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I'd agree with your analysis regarding many of the GU11 teams I have seen. Your team will play the Boca Silver team on NOV 17, should be interesting. Larchmont (refs) has a reputation of being Boca's 9th player on the field.

Next season, when the Elite and Premier teams combine, I expect to see a very strong team, indeed. I'm not sure any other Club, at least in R6, is better prepared for U12, having two such strong pool of players to combine. In addition, with your Club doing a good job of already implementing a sound universal system of play at the Club-level, that would make the transition that much smoother. 

BTW, how many of the MFC Benfica kids went to the Elite team? I heard 3.
PREMIER02G - November 02nd, 2012 23:23 GMT


Just one.It was their striker.Our team gets confused a lot with our Elte team we have a small ball style of play they play with attack and power.They are giants next to us.My little girl is 4 1" and 65 pounds.I am going to brag on her she probable has some of the best foot work at her age,this help when you cant afford to get hit to much.lol.I am just a proud dad.
Top_Red - November 03rd, 2012 00:28 GMT


I wonder what you base she has the best footwork on? Her region gold bracket? I remember playing your team in a tournament last year and I didn't notice any of your girls having foot skills. Your club is known for being a tactics club.
PREMIER02G - November 03rd, 2012 03:46 GMT


Top red

Some the best footwork not the best...and that's  from her fathers eyes not as her coach .....thanks for your view point ........
futballinator - November 03rd, 2012 04:14 GMT


My daughter has played both Ajax several times.  Peanut's very strong with her control IMO.  Always a threat, and not to be underestimated. 

Always found it a little curious how the two teams split out.  Seems like Elite picked for size and strength of muscle not necessarily strength on the ball....with props to #3 of course.  Will be very interesting to see the transition to 11v11. 

As for region 6....

Agreed, Ajax will be prepared, but lots of other talent out there...

There's some  pretty strong kids in the FC ELK Grove orange team and a host of select teams playing under their banner.  they should be very strong next year. 

SAC U fielding 3 teams at 8 v 8 and transitioning to more tactics....but no real superstar and need dedicated keeper.  Next year will see if true focus on footwork has paid off.  Also smaller on average then most other teams.

What happens if/when BOCAs best kids combine?  will they ever pass the ball?

Davis u11 over USA Stars u11 last weekend 11v11 1-0 in OT at lily Nisen tourney in Davis.  Ajax players in Vegas.

San Juan with at least 2 u11 PDP players currently playing up.  Who comes over? Theyre getting better fast and more kids might be lured by ECNL label.

Placer needs Loomis and Eureka kids.  If they combine yet another threat.

It's cool to see the region as a whole getting stronger.

PREMIER02G - November 03rd, 2012 04:43 GMT


I truly have learned from this forum never to talk about your child  or your team...lol..you get put on blast real fast..it's just a game...the premier team is for development .so really not a split the head coach really only wanted to have 12 girls.he does bring girls up when he plays 11 v 11 .and thanks for the kind words.
iam737 - November 03rd, 2012 18:44 GMT




------ QUOTE from  futballinator, November 03rd, 2012 04:14  GMT ------
My daughter has played both Ajax several times.  Peanut's very strong with her control IMO.  Always a threat, and not to be underestimated. 

Always found it a little curious how the two teams split out.  Seems like Elite picked for size and strength of muscle not necessarily strength on the ball....with props to #3 of course.  Will be very interesting to see the transition to 11v11. 

As for region 6....

Agreed, Ajax will be prepared, but lots of other talent out there...

There's some  pretty strong kids in the FC ELK Grove orange team and a host of select teams playing under their banner.  they should be very strong next year. 

SAC U fielding 3 teams at 8 v 8 and transitioning to more tactics....but no real superstar and need dedicated keeper.  Next year will see if true focus on footwork has paid off.  Also smaller on average then most other teams.

What happens if/when BOCAs best kids combine?  will they ever pass the ball?

Davis u11 over USA Stars u11 last weekend 11v11 1-0 in OT at lily Nisen tourney in Davis.  Ajax players in Vegas.

San Juan with at least 2 u11 PDP players currently playing up.  Who comes over? Theyre getting better fast and more kids might be lured by ECNL label.

Placer needs Loomis and Eureka kids.  If they combine yet another threat.

It's cool to see the region as a whole getting stronger.


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Not sure I'd agree about FC Elk Grove, the orange team is an average team at beet (lost 0-7 to Ajax P), the Navy squad is a very strong side at times. 

SJ would need to pull, their 2nd team is a first year team. 

Davis? maybe. They are always on the prowl for players.

Sac's would need outside help.

Boca will be interesting. The Silver program is going to be ended, per Norcal I hear. I can't see TD ever letting go of control of the Silver team. Players would have to be lured away.

Placer's U11 Red team is a strong Gold team at best.

There could be a lot of movement . . . will be interesting.

I don't see any other club with as much in-house talent as Ajax right now.

lunita - November 03rd, 2012 23:29 GMT




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Not sure I'd agree about FC Elk Grove, the orange team is an average team at beet (lost 0-7 to Ajax P), the Navy squad is a very strong side at times. 

SJ would need to pull, their 2nd team is a first year team. 

Davis? maybe. They are always on the prowl for players.

Sac's would need outside help.

Boca will be interesting. The Silver program is going to be ended, per Norcal I hear. I can't see TD ever letting go of control of the Silver team. Players would have to be lured away.

Placer's U11 Red team is a strong Gold team at best.

There could be a lot of movement . . . will be interesting.

I don't see any other club with as much in-house talent as Ajax right now.


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In the Sacramento area there's a lot of talent spread out very thin across many different clubs, especially many more affordable soccer options like  InterRage, Boca Silver, other teams formerly known as "select" etc.  What would eventually pull families that have kids playing a relatively high level of soccer for a relatively low price (select teams, InterRage, Boca Silver, Eureka, Loomis, etc.) to move to Placer, Boca, San Juan or Sac United and pay sometimes 2-4x as much?  Is the movement often at U12, or does it happen more in U14/U15 when families start looking forward to college?



iam737 - November 04th, 2012 02:14 GMT


The real craziness regarding club shopping/movement is when they hit high school.
Socop - November 04th, 2012 04:09 GMT


Generally speaking, most teams will look for new players to round out their transitioning U11 team to 15 or 16 players.  Most "B" team parents should not expect their kids to be automatically promoted.  It just doesn't work that way.

USA Stars should still be the team to beat.  Let's hope they can figure out their issues and they still will need 3-4 new players.

Elk Grove will be strong again.  Good teams tend to attract quality players.

San Juan will be getting at least 3 new quality players.  Perhaps as many as 5.

Davis will be strong again for the same reason as EG.  Plus, they have a very strong program overall.

Sac U - Status quo.  Will remain average.

Boca - Same as Sac United.

Placer will not see any improvement.  There is nothing to draw the quality players in the area to join PU.  The reverse, is actually true.

Loomis is very big on recruiting.  I think they will get stronger or at least maintain their rank as a top team.

I agree that it will be interesting to what changes occur.  Let's hope all of the "recruiting" stays above board.
iam737 - November 04th, 2012 18:10 GMT


Well, this could be the first year EG "pulls in" players, many EG residents  play outside of EG (SAC, Boca, Davis, SJ, interrage . . . ), it's never been the opposite where players go into EG to play. 

I agree with others.

. . . recruiting is NEVER above board as I am sure you know. Especially when the coaches send in their parents to do most of the dirty work on the sidelines during and after the games, or at school, etc. Part of the game.

NorcalSoccerFan - November 05th, 2012 18:29 GMT


It is always interesting to read parents' take on these teams, especially region 6.  We transplanted to the Bay Area this year, and I would be interested to also hear from anyone with knowlege on these teams (for next year's move to the big field). 

It seems Pleasanton has a strong team, but what about their second team?  I'm not sure how much it means, but like Ajax, MVLA has two teams in the top 32 at Norcal this year, and so does Santa Rosa, and Mustang has three teams in the top 32.  There seem to be other strong teams, but what clubs have enough depth and skill to move to a strong 11v11 team?  Or more than one strong 11v11 team?
eastbaysoccer - November 05th, 2012 18:48 GMT


The U11 Rage has a strong team but has a coach that puts development over winning.  Second team is decent with a few good players so if the club elects to draw from the second teammthey should be fine next year.  However I suspect Rage will add players from the large non resident pool of players that always seem to show up at U 12.

Overall,

U13 and below,  the Rage is very strong.  U17 is also very strong.  U14, U16 are weak.  U15 is average at best.  U18 is average.



PREMIER02G - November 05th, 2012 20:22 GMT


11 v 11 is the game changer.... if you have a good passing style and players with good vision  , man is it fun to watch.Whats really makes me enjoy watchin a team is when the coach doesnt say much.The team just plays.
NorcalSoccerFan - November 05th, 2012 20:58 GMT




------ QUOTE from  PREMIER02G, November 05th, 2012 20:22  GMT ------
11 v 11 is the game changer.... if you have a good passing style and players with good vision  , man is it fun to watch.Whats really makes me enjoy watchin a team is when the coach doesnt say much.The team just plays.
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Well, I understand both USA Stars and Ajax Elite have been playing 11v11 for a while now.  I haven't heard of any other teams?  The only 11v11 tournament that seems to include a number of Norcal teams is Surf Cup.  Ajax went 2-0-2 (2-0-1 in group play), USA Stars went 1-0-2 and Mustang Legends went 1-1-1.  Not sure USA Stars is all that deep without their Ajax striker in 11v11.

From the talk in this forum, it seems that pulling in outside talent is seen as the key for 11v11?  I spoke to a Mustang parent in Placer recently, and he said they don't have any non-resident players on their first team.  I wonder if more will appear next year for the first team.  I watched half of the Santa Rosa EQ/Mustang game, and the Mustang team was not big, but they passed well and were quick.  Santa Rosa was also techincally sound.
eastbaysoccer - November 05th, 2012 21:50 GMT




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------ QUOTE from  PREMIER02G, November 05th, 2012 20:22  GMT ------
11 v 11 is the game changer.... if you have a good passing style and players with good vision  , man is it fun to watch.Whats really makes me enjoy watchin a team is when the coach doesnt say much.The team just plays.
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Well, I understand both USA Stars and Ajax Elite have been playing 11v11 for a while now.  I haven't heard of any other teams?  The only 11v11 tournament that seems to include a number of Norcal teams is Surf Cup.  Ajax went 2-0-2 (2-0-1 in group play), USA Stars went 1-0-2 and Mustang Legends went 1-1-1.  Not sure USA Stars is all that deep without their Ajax striker in 11v11.

From the talk in this forum, it seems that pulling in outside talent is seen as the key for 11v11?  I spoke to a Mustang parent in Placer recently, and he said they don't have any non-resident players on their first team.  I wonder if more will appear next year for the first team.  I watched half of the Santa Rosa EQ/Mustang game, and the Mustang team was not big, but they passed well and were quick.  Santa Rosa was also techincally sound.
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Mustang has restrictive borders that only allows so many non resident kids on their first teams.  At U 14 however their are no such restrictions.  Not sure if is is true for clubs Nor Cal wide.  I know at Rage it's open borders from u9.  However at the youngers they try to keep  their top teams full of Pleasanton residents.  At u12 this changes.  I have heard that as the roster expands to 16-18, premier teams grab talent from the outside. 
PREMIER02G - November 05th, 2012 22:15 GMT


I think the farthest a child at our age group comes is an hour away and that is only 1 player.The rest are within 20 min.Mustang Legends have had a small team the last couple of years but with that said the play big with speed and passing.I think the 99 age group had a very good talent pool at u11 as well. Juventus plays U 11  and they have a big roster of players .I dont think the play much 8v8
eastbaysoccer - November 06th, 2012 04:07 GMT




------ QUOTE from  PREMIER02G, November 05th, 2012 22:15  GMT ------
  I think the farthest a child at our age group comes is an hour away and that is only 1 player.The rest are within 20 min.Mustang Legends have had a small team the last couple of years but with that said the play big with speed and passing.I think the 99 age group had a very good talent pool at u11 as well. Juventus plays U 11  and they have a big roster of players .I dont think the play much 8v8
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Mustang always has a good talent pool. 
PREMIER02G - November 06th, 2012 15:05 GMT


  eastbaysoccer November 05th, 2012 20:07               
Mustang always has a good talent pool



agreed
 



 


NorcalSoccerFan - November 06th, 2012 17:46 GMT
Edited by NorcalSoccerFan on November 06th, 2012 17:47 GMT



------ QUOTE from  eastbaysoccer, November 06th, 2012 04:07  GMT ------
  Mustang always has a good talent pool. 
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Any idea why this is?  Checking on their website, it seems their "resident" area is not very big-Danville (small town), Alamo (even smaller town), Diablo and Blackhawk (parts of Danville already?). 
soccerstar14 - November 06th, 2012 20:37 GMT


"Boca will be interesting. The Silver program is going to be ended, per Norcal I hear."

Is NorCal asking Boca to end their "silver" program? Why?
eastbaysoccer - November 06th, 2012 22:08 GMT




------ QUOTE from  NorcalSoccerFan, November 06th, 2012 17:46  GMT ------


------ QUOTE from  eastbaysoccer, November 06th, 2012 04:07  GMT ------
  Mustang always has a good talent pool. 
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Any idea why this is?  Checking on their website, it seems their "resident" area is not very big-Danville (small town), Alamo (even smaller town), Diablo and Blackhawk (parts of Danville already?). 
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Per capita income?  With money comes private trainers, better facilities, type A parents and kids.  Maybe better coaching or more of it. 

NorcalSoccerFan - November 07th, 2012 19:27 GMT




------ QUOTE from  eastbaysoccer, November 06th, 2012 22:08  GMT ------
 
Per capita income?  With money comes private trainers, better facilities, type A parents and kids.  Maybe better coaching or more of it. 

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I guess, but I'm not sure the per capita income is that different from the surrounding areas and clubs like San Ramon, Pleasanton, Walnut Creek, Lamorinda, etc.  I gues we'll see next year, but in the meantime some U11 Norcal games are already set for the next two weeks.  Should be interesting to see how it shakes out.
TVSoccer - November 09th, 2012 20:05 GMT


Interesting discussion.  I am familiar with many of the Sacramento and Modesto area teams, but I am much more familiar with Regions 2/3/4.  Speaking from the perspective of a Mustang parent, there is a lot of depth at this age group (and the U12 and U13 age groups as well).  As far as I know, there are only two out-of-the-area players on the seven U11 girls D1 and D3 teams (both on the Silver A Blast).  One of those players lives on the Mustang border, and her family has been involved with Mustang for years (playing, coaching and even a board member I think).

There are a number of talented D3 players that have never tried out for D1, but that may change next year when the teams move to 11v11.  I don’t know what Mustang plans to do, but I suspect there is enough talent and interest from current Mustang players to have at least three strong D1 teams.  Maybe more if outside players decide to try out.

The Legends are a very balanced team, with a lot of talent, speed and skill.  Granted, they are not a very big team, but they play with heart and are fun to watch, and they really seem to have a lot of fun playing the game.  The Blast is a bigger, more physical team, with a different style of play.  They play a lot of tough teams and get the job done.  The Xplosion is a typical third team with a wide variety of players-one may have speed but lack skill, another may have technical skill but lack speed, and so on-but they are doing well this year and have finished in the top 32 at NorCal the past two years.  Based on the depth, I think (and hope) the transition to the larger field next year will be successful for Mustang.  All three D1 coaches at this age group are great coaches, and they are focused on technical improvement and possession soccer, so it bodes well for our girls.  Whatever happens, it will be fun to watch.

As for other 2/3/4 teams, the Rage Orange team is strong, and the Rage has some strong players on their second team, so I think they will also transition well next year, but I don’t know if they will have more than one strong D1 team.  San Ramon has a talented bunch of girls, but I don’t know if they will all be there next year.  Even if they are, there may not be enough depth to make a strong 11v11 team.  UC Premier, Bay Oaks, Diablo FC, ACC Mavericks, SCA and De Anza all fall into this same category—they may not have enough strong players on their second teams to make a good transition, and even if they do, they will be limited to one team.  MVLA is one team to look out for.  Both of their top teams are strong, and they are very technically sound.  They will be a contender next year.

eastbaysoccer - November 09th, 2012 21:05 GMT


No question Mustang has depth.....but where are all these girls coming from?  Do people in Danville just love soccer? Is it marketing at the schools? 

Often times they can field 3 D1 teams once they reach U12, the second team of which is usually stronger than many 1st teams from smaller clubs. 





TVSoccer - November 09th, 2012 21:37 GMT




------ QUOTE from  eastbaysoccer, November 09th, 2012 21:05  GMT ------
No question Mustang has depth.....but where are all these girls coming from?  Do people in Danville just love soccer? Is it marketing at the schools? 

Often times they can field 3 D1 teams once they reach U12, the second team of which is usually stronger than many 1st teams from smaller clubs. 

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Well, I know most families are aware of Mustang Soccer when their kids enter kindergarten.  We heard about it from our friends with older kids.  Also, along with other sports fliers (I recall getting Tri-Valley fliers), I think our kids also brought home Mustang fliers from school.  It seems like probably most of the Danville/Alamo elementary school kids have played some form of Mustang Soccer.  I seem to remember something like 20 girls rec teams at U7 (maybe 11-12 kids per team?).  Of course there is attrition, especially on the boys side, with football, rugby, baseball, softball, basketball, swimming, LAX, etc.
NorcalSoccerFan - November 13th, 2012 21:20 GMT


A few second round games have been played . . .



------ QUOTE from  futballinator, October 27th, 2012 03:34  GMT ------
Here's the round 2 brackets....thoughts?  I've added mine


Loomis--sleeper team, watch out, might take bracket.  Good even competition here.
Mustang Blast  Narrow win over Pen. Odyssey
Penn Oddyssey
Sac United Red--maybe.  Loomis tough team, don't know much about Pen Odd


Bay Oaks Gold
MVLA Black
Mustang Xplosion  Managed a narrow win over MVLA despite being the lowest seed in the group of 32.
SRU Earthquakes---wins easily.  Looks like you were right.  SRU already has 10 points after playing Bay Oaks, which was techinically the number 1 seed in this flight.

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PREMIER02G - November 19th, 2012 04:33 GMT


Ajax premier 02g.  3-0 over  Fusion    ... Fun game .. Great fields
NorcalSoccerFan - December 11th, 2012 19:43 GMT


A few more games have been played . . . good win by Loomis, but not too surprising.  They are a good team.  Not too many other surprises except maybe the third Mustang team--which I believe is the 32 seed--making a run for it with 2 wins.  But it looks like they play Santa Rosa this weekend so that run might end quickly.

http://www.norcalpremier.com/schedules/55913501/55913592.html
TVSoccer - December 20th, 2012 19:49 GMT


Anyone know the deadline for the second round first games to be played?  We were told December 16th, but there seem to be some teams that haven't played any games, while some other teams have played 2 or 3.  I know one of our Mustang teams played all 3 games already.  And, yes, NorcalSF, it is our Silver B team, which has come a long way and ended up with 2 wins in the second round, which hopefully will be enough to land them in the top 16.
PREMIER02G - December 20th, 2012 22:10 GMT


Force Blue and Los Gatos should have played on Dec 16th.I wonder if it was a rain out.Congrats to your B team.
TVSoccer - December 20th, 2012 22:49 GMT




------ QUOTE from  PREMIER02G, December 20th, 2012 22:10  GMT ------
Force Blue and Los Gatos should have played on Dec 16th.I wonder if it was a rain out.Congrats to your B team.
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Same with Gryphons and Burlingame.  I don't think there was any rain on Sunday, was there?

Thanks on the congrats.  It will be fun to see how the Gold (Legends) and Silver A (Blast) teams finish up in this round.
PREMIER02G - December 20th, 2012 23:00 GMT


The might just be waiting to post scores.I dont think it rained but the fields have had a lot of water on them.So you guys have a long drive down to Turlock?We are about 15 min. away for once.lol.Turlock's fields  are nice with good parking.
TVSoccer - December 20th, 2012 23:05 GMT


It's about an hour and 20 minutes.  Not so bad, and probably no further than Granite in Sac.  Still, an 8:00 game would mean an early wake-up call if a team does not stay the night!
PREMIER02G - December 20th, 2012 23:16 GMT


It has been 34 degrees at 8am every morning so far...No fun ..My little girl played U10 last year in statecup that finished in Nov and it was ok weather.Then she played up  for our u11 team in statecup and it ended in Feb.It was freezing..
TVSoccer - December 21st, 2012 20:58 GMT


good timing . . . the DeAnza/Los Gatos (2-1 DeAnza) and Gryphons/Burlingame (1-1 draw) results have now been posted.  Bet that Force/Los Gatos game was fun to watch.
PREMIER02G - December 21st, 2012 22:32 GMT


Two good teams.We play both on Jan 26.Should be fun!
Socop - December 31st, 2012 00:16 GMT


Now that Gregg Thompson will be coaching a U12 g team at Cal Blues next year, everything changes.  He has the opportunity to put together a real powerhouse team.  The team will certainly dominate all current Placer Co teams and should compete with the top NorCal teams.  That should be one heck of a tryout!
lunita - December 31st, 2012 00:55 GMT


Wow,  where's that announcement? There's quite a lot of talent in that area in that age group -- Placer United, Eureka, Loomis, Rocklin and Roseville all have quite good U11G teams very nearby (not to mention girls farther away who would travel to be coached by Gregg.) 
futballinator - December 31st, 2012 02:16 GMT




------ QUOTE from  Socop, December 31st, 2012 00:16  GMT ------
Now that Gregg Thompson will be coaching a U12 g team at Cal Blues next year, everything changes.  He has the opportunity to put together a real powerhouse team.  The team will certainly dominate all current Placer Co teams and should compete with the top NorCal teams.  That should be one heck of a tryout!
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Wonder if he'll have to sit out Norcal a year like FC Elk Grove and USA Stars....

Hope not with the possibility of ...Blues/Placer,  ?Loomis,  USA  Stars,  FC EG, Davis, BOCA, San Juan, and possibly Ajax Elite competing in the Norcal Region 6 Premier Division next fall...now that should be some great soccer.

Loomis Dad...will Loomis be coming over to Norcal for both  Fall and Spring next year?
Socop - January 01st, 2013 19:36 GMT




------ QUOTE from  lunita, December 31st, 2012 00:55  GMT ------
Wow,  where's that announcement? There's quite a lot of talent in that area in that age group -- Placer United, Eureka, Loomis, Rocklin and Roseville all have quite good U11G teams very nearby (not to mention girls farther away who would travel to be coached by Gregg.)   
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I assume you have seen the official announcement by now.  I agree there is a lot of talent in this age group.  GT will have his work cut out for him trying to decide on a final 15-16 players.  All of the league champion Eureka team will be free agents this year as their coach is not returning.  This certainly doesn't mean they are all deserving of a spot, but it does indicate the type and quality of players that will be interested in playing for Gregg.  I think the Loomis team will remain largely intact, although they may lose a few players they were counting on getting.  There are a few Rocklin players that may try out along with a handful of PU players who have attended GT programs for a long time.

Tryouts should be very interesting as will all of the lobbying and overall arse kissing that will take place prior.  Good luck, GT.
TVSoccer - January 10th, 2013 20:02 GMT


Does anyone have experience with the Turlock fields?  Do they drain well?  NorCal on grass fields in late January and early February is a little risky.
PREMIER02G - January 10th, 2013 21:53 GMT


The fields in Modesto have been ok.Turlock should drain well but if we have a couple of days of heavy ran it could make them mushy.They do have thick grass so mud shouldn’t be a problem.
TVSoccer - January 14th, 2013 03:18 GMT




------ QUOTE from  PREMIER02G, January 10th, 2013 21:53  GMT ------
The fields in Modesto have been ok.Turlock should drain well but if we have a couple of days of heavy ran it could make them mushy.They do have thick grass so mud shouldn’t be a problem.
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Saw the Mustang Legends play your Elite team today.  It was a great game, though #3 went in for a hard tackle and was out the rest of the game.  It would be fun to see a rematch at State Cup.
PREMIER02G - January 14th, 2013 03:58 GMT


It is fun to watch both teams,and yes it would be great to see them in State cup for a rematch.Two more weeks
TVSoccer - January 14th, 2013 17:44 GMT




------ QUOTE from  PREMIER02G, January 14th, 2013 03:58  GMT ------
It is fun to watch both teams,and yes it would be great to see them in State cup for a rematch.Two more weeks
 
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Do you know if #3 is OK?  Her dad was pretty upset at the end of the game and made a few uncool statements about teams "targeting" his daughter.  There was no such thing--she just plays hard and went in for a hard tackle and came out limping.
PREMIER02G - January 14th, 2013 18:29 GMT


She's ok ,she will have to rest it for a week.Thanks for asking.As far as the parent ,i think he was just upset.If you play hard sometimes you get the worst of it.I heard it was a clean tackle from the assi.coach.I have always felt that Mustangs were a class act with great soccer.FYI the talk from the Elite team was about your player #5 and how well she played .   
TVSoccer - January 14th, 2013 18:48 GMT




------ QUOTE from  PREMIER02G, January 14th, 2013 18:29  GMT ------
She's ok ,she will have to rest it for a week.Thanks for asking.As far as the parent ,i think he was just upset.If you play hard sometimes you get the worst of it.I heard it was a clean tackle from the assi.coach.I have always felt that Mustangs were a class act with great soccer.FYI the talk from the Elite team was about your player #5 and how well she played .   
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I was hoping it was just a heat of the moment comment.  I am glad she will be fine--you never want to see a player hurt, especially this close to State Cup.  Ellie (#5) puts it all on the line, every game--she is really a gifted player and a neat girl.  I think the Blast also gave the Elite a run for their money in the morning game--I wasn't there but I heard it was tighter than the 3-0 score indicated, with two of Ajax's three goals coming on PKs in the 2nd half.
PREMIER02G - January 15th, 2013 18:21 GMT


I think your style of play frustrates a lot of teams.Speed and good passing will take a team out of their game ,especially aggressive big player’s .Our elite team has big athletic girls who over power teams  and the premier team is small and relies on passing and runs.
PREMIER02G - January 21st, 2013 23:43 GMT


Fields   are looking good so far in Turlock.
TVSoccer - January 22nd, 2013 01:05 GMT




------ QUOTE from  PREMIER02G, January 21st, 2013 23:43  GMT ------
Fields   are looking good so far in Turlock.
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Fingers Crossed!
loomisdad - January 25th, 2013 04:08 GMT


Any other teams dealing with flu issues?
It couldn't hit at a worse time. 
TVSoccer - January 25th, 2013 04:37 GMT




------ QUOTE from  loomisdad, January 25th, 2013 04:08  GMT ------
Any other teams dealing with flu issues?
It couldn't hit at a worse time. 
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Unfortunately, it is all over the place, starting last week.  We've got stomach flu on one team, and fever/aches/sore throat on another.

Hope your team recovers quickly.
PREMIER02G - January 25th, 2013 05:30 GMT


We have a couple.....Not a good time
TVSoccer - January 28th, 2013 03:52 GMT


Weird weekend for the Mustang teams.  The Legends were hit hard by the flu and then played an MVLA team that really showed up to play.  Props to MVLA--they were impressive!  Now Mustang has three teams in the same bracket (State 2, 9-16).  Two had to play each other today, and now two will play in the semis also.
PREMIER02G - January 28th, 2013 15:12 GMT


We had 2 girls with the flu,one did not come back on Sunday.1 with a sprained knee 2 went down with ankles against De Anza.My little girl got kicked in the face against Los Gatos kinda took her out of her game.It has been fun and we are very proud of the girls.We did make the Premier 1 group.Hats off to the Mustangs having 3 teams in the 9-16.I know you would have liked one of them in the top 8 but still a great season for your age group.Great job to Loomis as well .
TVSoccer - January 28th, 2013 18:06 GMT
Edited by TVSoccer on January 28th, 2013 18:08 GMT



------ QUOTE from  PREMIER02G, January 28th, 2013 15:12  GMT ------
We had 2 girls with the flu,one did not come back on Sunday.1 with a sprained knee 2 went down with ankles against De Anza.My little girl got kicked in the face against Los Gatos kinda took her out of her game.It has been fun and we are very proud of the girls.We did make the Premier 1 group.Hats off to the Mustangs having 3 teams in the 9-16.I know you would have liked one of them in the top 8 but still a great season for your age group.Great job to Loomis as well .
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Really sorry to hear about your daughter and the rash of injuries.  There is never a good time for injuries or flu, but State Cup is a particularly bad time.  I hope they all heal quickly.  My daughter made it through the game yesterday just a little under the weather, but the flu/fever hit hard last night.

You are right, the Legends are very disappointed.  I think they belong in the top 8, but, well, they lost, and this system is draconian in the later stages with regard to losses.  On the flip side, I am sure the XPlosion (third team) are thrilled to be where they are, and I imagine Mustang as a club is happy to have three teams in the top 16.

And, yes, congrats to Loomis!
PREMIER02G - January 28th, 2013 18:53 GMT


She's good.Its real tough when you work hard all season and it comes down to being sick.
futballinator - January 29th, 2013 03:39 GMT


I think its fair to say that both State 1 and State 2 have teams that many expected to be elsewhere.   

Did anyone else get the feeling as goalies were punting it to eachother throughout the games that it was definitely time to move onto a bigger field?

rosevilledad - January 29th, 2013 05:12 GMT


At u11 especially end of season the fields are definitely getting too small. Even more so for the boys. The punting game is maybe one reason why rankings and wins below u12 mean less. Somewhat bad but athletic soccer gets rewarded over skill. (Ranking should not mean anyway much given development phase of game for the kids) 
I know it won't be possible but keeping 8v8 i really like due to number of touches but slightly longer fields for u11 would be great. 
Anyways I am not sure how many other states finish their outdoor soccer cups in January. :-)
PREMIER02G - January 29th, 2013 18:42 GMT


It did look as if the goalies had superman legs.lol..I did notice that teams that play the big ball had some trouble keeping the ball in play.
coolhand - January 29th, 2013 20:15 GMT


Any predictions for the final 1-8 outcome?  I'm going out on a limb with Ajax as No. 1....

2- Santa Rosa
3- MVLA
4- Pleasanton
5- Loomis
6- San Juan
7- DeAnza
8- UC Premier
TVSoccer - January 29th, 2013 20:47 GMT


I predict it just a little differently

1.  Ajax
2.  Santa Rosa
3.  MVLA
4.  Pleasanton
5.  San Juan
6.  Loomis
7.  DeAnza
8.  UC Premier
futballinator - January 29th, 2013 21:06 GMT


I'll take a chance and go for some dark horses.  SRU yet to be challenged in state cup and their 2-1win over SJ not very convincing.  Ajax striker not 100%...hope she is in 2 weeks because she's really fun to watch.  San Juan with easiest path to top 8 other than SR, not sure they're truly a top 8 team yet.  Loomis strength primarily defensive. 


1.  MVLA
2.  Rage
3.  Ajax
4.  SRU
5.  De Anza
6.  UC
7.  Loomis
8.  San Juan
PREMIER02G - January 29th, 2013 22:19 GMT


The Ajax striker is set this weekend just to help her healing,She will be good for the last round.With that said i think Tvsoccer is dialed in.This sounds funny but Ajax strikers really plays the mid she just attacks so much she looks as if she plays striker.
futballinator - January 29th, 2013 22:46 GMT


Call her whatever you want.  8v8 she's allowed to go wherever she wants.  She scores more than the next 3 kids on that team combined.  Not opinion, on their stats page.  That's why she's fun to watch and probably why her dad is concerned she's getting targeted. 
PREMIER02G - January 30th, 2013 00:06 GMT


She's fun to watch play soccer and a great kid all around.She is very humble.Some people may not know but she is a comp. swimmer as well and holds records in her age group.
Waffle - January 30th, 2013 00:18 GMT


Ya'll should start a new topic dedicated to her....  Just sayin.
futballinator - January 30th, 2013 00:30 GMT


Waffle - January 30th, 2013 00:46 GMT


Sorry, but I couldn't resist. 

PREMIER02G - January 30th, 2013 01:00 GMT


lol....Come on Waffle  
Waffle - January 30th, 2013 16:37 GMT


Ok Here's mine.

Ajax
SRU
Rage
MVLA
Force
UC 
SJ
Loomis
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